Who else hates this guy (Gregg Wallace)?

But Gregg Wallace wasn't going to bush jump that lady on live TV right?

It's either harmless fun, or it's not.

You can't have that it's harmless fun if the fat black lady does it, but not if the white British male does?
Lol it's nothing about the risks.

Gregg Wallace wasn't going to assault her or worse was he? He didn't touch her, this was a possibility poorly worded comment, with no real intent on live TV.

If it had grabbed her in a dark alley I could see your point.

What clip/incident are you on about here?
 
is her deep association with the upper tiers of the Labour party, and it's current need for some distraction from their woeful performance to date.
government/#10 put fuel on the fire with their calling out GW misogyny reply, also with their coercive control on the BBC budget/future ... so yes agree the distraction wasn't unwelcome. ..
Starmer doesn't seem to have been questioned yet by media on this - to see if he can string together a plausible response.
 
It is crazy to think that Alison Hammond managed to make quite a successful media career when this is her claim to fame.


Why? She wasn't given further employment because she broke a table, but because she had a personality employers thought would work on TV

The quicker traditional media dies the better.


What, to be replaced by YT, TikTok and Social Media? No thanks.
 
The whole trial by media is so unpleasant.
It is, but this was all avoidable by reading the room, and not doubling down with that absurd excuse the other day. Double standards do not make it any less appropriate to say these things in a workplace setting; I'd be fired if I spoke to a woman like that here, and it wouldn't be Cancel culture, it would be FAFO.

Unfortunately for GW, it seems there may be more to it than a few bad taste, wrong place, wrong person comments. I'm sure Owen jones will defend him as he did huw edwards...
 
It is, but this was all avoidable by reading the room, and not doubling down with that absurd excuse the other day. Double standards do not make it any less appropriate to say these things in a workplace setting; I'd be fired if I spoke to a woman like that here, and it wouldn't be Cancel culture, it would be FAFO.

Unfortunately for GW, it seems there may be more to it than a few bad taste, wrong place, wrong person comments. I'm sure Owen jones will defend him as he did huw edwards...
Different people definitely have different thresholds on this sort of thing.
In a work meeting yesterday the boys asked a question about one of our cameras and the 12" cable it should have.
This bloke then said is that a man's 12" or a woman's, not a comment I would say in work but clearly he thought it was funny.
 
Different people definitely have different thresholds on this sort of thing.
In a work meeting yesterday the boys asked a question about one of our cameras and the 12" cable it should have.
This bloke then said is that a man's 12" or a woman's, not a comment I would say in work but clearly he thought it was funny.

Some of the stuff I used to hear on the shop floor was not for the feint hearted. One of my work colleagues who is now a senior manager used to get his Johnson out and was caught shagging a married women in one of the offices. This would have been around 15 years ago though.

Another place I went to later another senior manager was fired for getting oral from a subordinate in a chiller where raw material was being kept and that was only 4-5 years ago.

A lot of the times stuff was covered up by their superiors because like most corporate it was a boys/women's club.

The Christmas parties were something else and you had to have your wits about you. One of my friends was offered a good time by a married women twice his age. It wasn't even subtle. She literally came up to him and offered it on a plate. We both looked at each other with a WTF face but for some this is normal behaviour. Both male and female.

Like you said it depends on the kind of exposure you have experienced. You end up becoming ignorant of it all in the end.
 
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This bloke then said is that a man's 12" or a woman's, not a comment I would say in work but clearly he thought it was funny.
It is funny, though.... and it would have been just as funny if a woman had said it, but for different reasons.


I've no interest in defending Wallace, but I do think it's a BS knee-jerk reaction to start pulling episodes of things like Masterchef.
As others have said, the programme isn't just about GW. It's about the contestants and all the time, effort and hard work they put in to earn their moments on screen, so the idea of 'cancelling' all those other people and denying them their moment on screen just so a few people don't get "triggered" by seeing something they don't like on TV is just ridiculous....

... and what exactly is the context of being "triggered", here? Some bloke said a few things they didn't like?
Most of us at work, in school or at home still have to be around people who've said or done things on a comparatively similar scale that we found offensive, yet we're grown up enough to deal with those pretty minor incidents.
It's not like GW has raped or beaten anyone. He's not Jimmy Saville or Gary Glitter, he's just a bit of a bell-end... so while he may well deserve the negativity for inappropriate behaviour perhaps even to the point of never working again, the other people already on the programme certainly shouldn't have to pay the price.
 
It is funny, though.... and it would have been just as funny if a woman had said it, but for different reasons.


I've no interest in defending Wallace, but I do think it's a BS knee-jerk reaction to start pulling episodes of things like Masterchef.
As others have said, the programme isn't just about GW. It's about the contestants and all the time, effort and hard work they put in to earn their moments on screen, so the idea of 'cancelling' all those other people and denying them their moment on screen just so a few people don't get "triggered" by seeing something they don't like on TV is just ridiculous....

... and what exactly is the context of being "triggered", here? Some bloke said a few things they didn't like?
Most of us at work, in school or at home still have to be around people who've said or done things on a comparatively similar scale that we found offensive, yet we're grown up enough to deal with those pretty minor incidents.
It's not like GW has raped or beaten anyone. He's not Jimmy Saville or Gary Glitter, he's just a bit of a bell-end... so while he may well deserve the negativity for inappropriate behaviour perhaps even to the point of never working again, the other people already on the programme certainly shouldn't have to pay the price.
I agree with this.

I'll take it back if a lot of sex pesting reports start coming out later (or if I've missed something serious) but my take is that GW is just a joker that oversteps the line a lot and doesn't play to the audience in front of him.

I used to work with a guy like that. He had no internal filter whatsoever and it was like whatever popped into his head came out of his mouth. Everything he said was laced with sexual innuendo but the guy really meant no offence to anyone and was just trying to be funny.

Later, I had the chance to offer him a job but went with another candidate as I couldn't trust him not to say something inappropriate to the wrong person in a professional setting.
 
I'll take it back if a lot of sex pesting reports start coming out later (or if I've missed something serious) but my take is that GW is just a joker that oversteps the line a lot and doesn't play to the audience in front of him.
He strikes me as being on the 'He Touched My Knee' type of offender, as in very minor transgressions (which he probably hasn't even realised do not align with the BBC's strict code of conduct) and jokes that some people haven't found funny or are using against him because he's not done anything worse. There seems a lot of inadvertence in his conduct, which is a dangerous thing in today's media roles.

It's a hard line to walk and I'd compare it to something like bizarre skateboarding tricks online - If you get it right, you're awesome, but if you get it wrong you're an epic fail... and GW has failed. I'd like to think there was innocent intent in his behaviour and he's just acting like a lad, but it's part of his job to gauge the context correctly and there's no excuse for it.
Of course, if it transpires that there have been more serious offences then he's ******.
 
He strikes me as being on the 'He Touched My Knee' type of offender, as in very minor transgressions (which he probably hasn't even realised do not align with the BBC's strict code of conduct) and jokes that some people haven't found funny or are using against him because he's not done anything worse. There seems a lot of inadvertence in his conduct, which is a dangerous thing in today's media roles.

It's a hard line to walk and I'd compare it to something like bizarre skateboarding tricks online - If you get it right, you're awesome, but if you get it wrong you're an epic fail... and GW has failed. I'd like to think there was innocent intent in his behaviour and he's just acting like a lad, but it's part of his job to gauge the context correctly and there's no excuse for it.
Of course, if it transpires that there have been more serious offences then he's ******.
Aye, fair enough and I wouldn't disagree with any of that either.

Anything physical is a different ball game and if he, as in one report, partially exposed himself deliberately then he deserves all he gets.

I just hope there's a statute of limitations on some of the nonsense I've came out with over the years. You'd have an actual criminal record expire in the time it takes some of these allegations on what people have said to come out.
 
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Anyone got any idea why John Torode who's he's shared the screen with for 20 years hasn't said a single word on the issue ?
I believe John once said they weren't really friends, but after that long co-hosting a show I'd expect a bit of support.
 
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