Hmm quite fancy a ph1. Cheers I'll have a look.
what you driving these days out of interest? you lose the 19?
sadly 4.5 years ago a daft bint in a Ka rear ended me writing the poor thing off, I loved that car
Got a black phase 1 172 to replace it, yeah it's quicker, cheaper to run and has air con, but I'd have my 19 back tomorrow if someone said do you want to swap. I bet Mr Hall is still tinkering with them though?
But other than being centimental the Clio has been an awesome little car, it's about to tick over 96k tomorrow and it's running great.
And this is the problem, it's good so to replace it I'm going to have to spend a hell of a lot more than the car is worth to get anything 'better', plus it is so cheap to run.
So am I right in thinking the 172 is quicker than the 182, but the 182 has more toys?
Real world there's pretty much naff all in it. The phase 2 172 and 182 non cup/non trophy have the same toys. Xenons, climate etc.
But bein really picky the phase 2 172 is the slowest with the 172 cup, all the 182s, and phase 1 172 all being a bit quicker. But it really is marginal.
Phae 1 had different suspension geo iirc, different ratio gearbox (slightly longer), 15inch wheels instead of 16inch, much better airbox design imho, the only model with cable throttle and it's lighter. Some models also had an aluminium bonnet which was quite a bit lighter.
182 over a phase 2 172 has a different exhaust manifold, 4-2-1 which makes up most of the difference. You can retro fit these but it's costly as they are a lot longer than the 4-1 of the 172s. The 4-2-1 supposedly sacrifices a bit of top end to improve mid range and some people when tuning prefer the 4-1 as it suites high revvy tuning types better, apparently.
172 cup was also offered with climate control as an option near the end of production but not many of those around.