Who here owns a Subaru?

ScoobyDoo69 said:
That's rather cheap.

The 2.5 engine isn't up to much, not great power, or fuel consumption either. But very reliable.

Not sure I can recommend over a Mondeo for anything other than the fact that it's a bit different. If it was the 3.0R I would very easily tell you to go for it. Instead, I'll just recommend to test drive it and see how you feel it compares to the other alternatives.
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Is the 3.0R a good bet as a used car then? Lots popping up quite cheap.
 
The legacys are very reliable, nicely built inside, a cut above a Mondeo or Vectra but still not as good as BMW, VW or Audi! The 3.0R/Spec Bs are very thirsty though, even for a three litre six cylinder car, you'll sub 20mpg around town in stop/start traffic, and you'll struggle to better mid/high 20s even on a run.
 
ScoobyDoo69 said:
They are just not reliable and have no top end. It's all low and mid range power, then it goes all asthmatic past 5500rpm.
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It's all mid range power because of the stupid TD04...I have ridden in a 20G powered 2.5 and I guarantee you it had top end..not to mention AVCS helps spool as well as top end. They are just as reliable as the 2.0s...Subaru just gave them crappy factory tunes.

I live practically across the street from Perrin performance and have never heard them say anything bad about the 2.5 other than it makes more torque so WRX owners need to be more aware of damaging the tranny.
 
They are no where near as reliable as the 2.0.

They NEED bigger head studs to prevent head gasket failure, the block liners are so much thinner than the 2.0 blocks making them flex a lot more, so if going big power they normally need replacement liners. They have chocolate pistons and ring lands.

The only time a 2.5 block from an STi is reliable is when it has been rebuilt with decent pistons, larger head studs, thicket head gaskets and a good tune.
 
gurusan said:
It's all mid range power because of the stupid TD04...I have ridden in a 20G powered 2.5
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It's just the map: Subaru mapped the 2.5s to give low-end torque so they would sell in the US (Americans being used to big NA engines working like that), and they then brought them to the UK with a similar map. It would be simple to map the original turbo to give torque at the top and, and the TD05 to give it at the bottom. It's also a perfectly valid way of having the torque: my car generates maximum torque at about 4500rpm (although it doesn't really drop until 6000rpm). It's like that because I want useful torque, not pub and forum boasting torque.
 
It's not just the map, I am running a stage 2 map (XPT) and top end sucks above 5200rpm or so. By 6K I'm only running 9psi and the turbo is still being overspun and blowing hot air.

The 2.5s need a larger turbo. I really wish they would have just gone with a twin scroll td05 20g or something.

As for reliability, you may be right that they have downfalls to big power. But if you want big power then you need a big turbo which means spool and street driving sucks, even with methanol.

I don't plan on big power, only 300-320whp and from what I've seen with a good tune those power levels are perfectly reliable on the engine, more so than the transmission.

Personally, I like streetability and torque is needed to move this massive 3300lb behemoth around. Plus, coming from the honda world where there is nothing but top end it's nice to have some grunt.

Anyway, I have nearly 100K on my engine, we'll see how long she'll last especially as I beat on it daily in the mountains.
 
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Hey guys I picked this up last Sunday, was recommended here to get one with the PPP and so I did :). Had 1 owner, FMDSH, 34k Mileage.

Thinking about spraying the wheels gold at some point, anyone recommend any decent mudflaps?

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