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Who owns a Golf GTD / GTI / R?

Discussion in 'Motors' started by craig_t, Mar 24, 2015.

  1. thewanted

    Mobster

    Joined: Jul 27, 2007

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    Oh, I thought all of the pre-facelift models had the 6 speed. My A4 has the 7 speed and it can be a bit rough on initial pull off if it feels like you haven't given it enough throttle, but it's nowhere near as dim as the 6 speed in the Golf R I test drove.
     
  2. Kenai

    Capodecina

    Joined: Apr 5, 2009

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    I have the DQ380/381 7 speed (seems to be some debate on which versions are fitted here) in my vRS and it's anything but clumsy and jerky. I was half expecting to regret not getting a manual but this box is so good I don't see me going back to a manual any time soon.

    As a 1.4 though, yours is a low torque dry clutch box, it's absolutely nothing like the wet clutch DQ380 series boxes being fitted to the 2.0TSI cars now. It's a completely different gearbox, about the only thing in common is the number of gears.
     
  3. mjt

    Capodecina

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    Fair enough! Do the mk7 R/GTIs share the box with the 7.5s, or did this come with the facelift?
    I’d be looking at 2015-2016 cars.
     
  4. Kenai

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    Pretty sure prefacelift will be the DQ500 6 speed box, facelifts then switched to the DQ380 7 speeds is my understanding.
     
  5. mjt

    Capodecina

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    Which then goes back to my initial question; other than regular servicing, anything to worry about? Do these lunch themselves like early DSG units and Audi ones? The last thing I would want to see is a red cog and mechatronics failure..
     
  6. Kenai

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    I've not heard much in terms of failures on the 7 speed but they'll all be within warranty at the moment anyway.

    Not sure what you mean by 'audi ones' - there hasn't ever been a specific audi dsg box, they're all used across all the brands.

    These days, a correctly serviced DSG box should be no more worrisome than any other automatic really.
     
  7. mjt

    Capodecina

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    I was referring to those horrid Multitronics. Good to hear not many horror stories with DSG at the moment. In any case, I’d be looking at pre-facelifts out of warranty. Manuals are cheaper anyway as I guess they’re undesirable?
     
  8. Kenai

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    I think the manuals are regarded as less able to take big power increases compared to the DSG boxes, though this isn't really an issue unless you're going beyond a basic remap in them.

    The difference in price is probably mostly down to the fact the manuals were cheaper new in the first place and a lot of the Golf R market is populated with returned lease cars that were selected on the basis of "wow Golf R for a fiver a year" and so were all basic basic spec.
     
  9. Worthy

    Underboss

    Joined: Oct 18, 2002

    Posts: 5,857

    Location: Manchester

    Well, mine is going back on the 1st March. Didn't think I'd be able to hand it back so early but it turns out mine was one of the last made before they had to tweak the power slightly to meet emissions, so it's held its value relatively well (albeit still quite eye-watering depreciation). Don't want the worry of it being on the drive when I move so I've swapped it for... a Polo.
     
  10. FTM

    Soldato

    Joined: Dec 10, 2003

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    Location: South Shields

    one thing I am noticing from the MY2019 7.5 golf gti is they have done something to the exahaust compared to my old gti

    its sounds a lot better
     
  11. layte

    Wise Guy

    Joined: Jun 14, 2008

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    DQ380 is the FWD box the 381 is the 4WD version.
    The 7 speed box came with the facelift on the R and GTI-PP

    Pre facelift was the DQ250. The DQ500 is used in the RS3 and TTRS.
     
  12. thewanted

    Mobster

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    Sounds like the MK7.5 Golf R uses the same 7 speed DQ381 as my B9 A4. I think it's a really good gearbox and doesn't seem to get confused like the older dual-clutch boxes from VAG.

    My 2010 Polo 1.4 had a really poor 7 speed box in it. At the time I wasn't sure if it was down to the 85BHP engine the car had, but in hindsight it was probably just a poorly designed box that needed more R&D.
     
  13. BigAndy87

    Hitman

    Joined: Feb 14, 2011

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    Location: Scotland

    Anyone know how much it will be to change the xenon's on 2014 gtd at garage. Current ones seem abit on dim side.
    I would do it myself but am lazy now :p and seems alot of effort to just change a bulb even with going through the wheel arch.
     
  14. mjt

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    Indeed, what my brief research uncovered. Didn't find much on reliability though; any thoughts/experience?
     
  15. FerretBoy

    Mobster

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    I really like the DSG box on my 7.5R, only used manual mode a few time. It auto changes at optimal times, so manual mode would only benefit on a track when I might want to change early or late. I guess when over taking the kickdown looses a little time that manual mode would remove, but it's not like over taking is hard with over 300bhp and instant gear changes..
     
  16. silvagti

    Wise Guy

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    I find when overtaking it's better to preemptively put the DSG into sport mode as using kickdown is kind of slow and generally causes the car to lurch whilst the gearbox tries to figure out what you're trying to do. Either that or drop a couple of gears using the shifters.
     
  17. FerretBoy

    Mobster

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    I don't get a lurch, but I almost always use sport if I am going to overtake. I more compare the small delay as it drops two gears as the calm before the storm
     
  18. dod

    Mobster

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    Location: Inverness

    That's exactly what I do usually. Got the estate rather than the hatch though