why all the hate for hs2?

200sols · 2 Oct 2023 at 13:19

Terrible decision.

explicit4u · 2 Oct 2023 at 14:09

Tory MPs flying into Manchester on the day they're likely to scrap the Manchester HS2 leg, beyond parody.

Freefaller · 2 Oct 2023 at 14:15

What a waste of time and money now. So much for levelling up eh?

Diddums · 2 Oct 2023 at 14:15

We need another Guy Fawkes.

Freefaller · 2 Oct 2023 at 14:17

Diddums said:
We need another Guy Fawkes.

Maybe Puting can do us a favour....

adam cool dude · 2 Oct 2023 at 14:19

What about the Nottingham part has that been cancelled too or is that still going ahead?

doodah · 2 Oct 2023 at 14:39

But we have spades in the ground. Billion pound spades!!!

Mr Badger · 2 Oct 2023 at 14:52

doodah said:
But we have spades in the ground. Billion pound spades!!!

Say what you like about Sunak, but he certainly isn't afraid to call a spade...

Diddums · 2 Oct 2023 at 15:03

Honestly this amount of incompetence is criminal and needs to be punished, until these useless bell ends are held accountable they'll simply continue with this. Find a solution to the 4 year cycle, thus ditching the kick-the-can-down-the-road mentality.

Frequent and regular audits from top to bottom, by independent third companies.

And frequent quality reviews of all major projects during their development, scrapping anyone who doesn't deliver what they are paid to, on time, and in good order.

#votefordiddums

jpaul · 2 Oct 2023 at 15:09

or, Girl Fawkes - she's trying to destroy whatever credibility remains - hand grenade.

Duke · 2 Oct 2023 at 15:11

jpaul said:
well Meta is abandonning that gravy Train - getting out of dodge @£126M .(hybrid-working smoke screen by media who obviously don't watch silicon valley response to WFH )

What's that in English?

doodah · 2 Oct 2023 at 15:31

As of June, the total amount spent sat at £24.7bn (at 2019 prices).

We got fleeced good and proper. Saw a supposed comment from the HS1 director stating, never tell them your budget.

200sols · 2 Oct 2023 at 16:20

Its almost over 400million per mile now :cry:

jpaul · 2 Oct 2023 at 16:25

Duke said:
What's that in English?

context is everything - meta abandonning offices in london, it's/London's celebrity status declining, commercial property price drop ...
.. so shipping people quickly into london, as hs2 aspires, is less useful.

200sols · 2 Oct 2023 at 16:36

jpaul said:
context is everything - meta abandonning offices in london, it's/London's celebrity status declining, commercial property price drop ...
.. so shipping people quickly into london, as hs2 aspires, is less useful.

The commercial property issue and remote working issue is not unique to London or the UK.

GreatAuk · 2 Oct 2023 at 16:44

Ffs what a shambles.

adam cool dude said:
What about the Nottingham part has that been cancelled too or is that still going ahead?

Am sure someone will correct me if I'm wrong but I don't think there has been any news about that being cancelled, still due to be a station at East Midlands Parkway (with trains potentially running on to Nottingham and Derby on existing tracks). There hasn't been a plan to have the line go through the actual centre of Nottingham for long time though, and the rest of the Eastern Branch going up to Leeds etc was cancelled a couple of years ago.

BDEE · 2 Oct 2023 at 16:50

Should have started building it from the north down, not the other way.

Guaranteed the whole thing would have been built then.

This government is beyond a joke over the last 18 months or so.

malachi · 2 Oct 2023 at 16:55

Azza said:
Incoming.

https://twitter.com/x/status/1708813476821364944

Translation

"We are going to focus on transport within London because that's more important than the rest of the countries transport"

200sols · 2 Oct 2023 at 16:56

BDEE said:
Should have started building it from the north down, not the other way.

Guaranteed the whole thing would have been built then.

This government is beyond a joke over the last 18 months or so.

No guarantee at all, the thing isn't even going all the way to Euston.

Blackjack Davy · 2 Oct 2023 at 18:44

I am told the PM has now taken the decision to shelve the Manchester leg of HS2. Confirmation, and detail of the re-allocation of funds to other transport projects in the north, will presumably come very soonConfirmation, and detail of the re-allocation of funds to other transport projects in the north, will presumably come very soon.

New bus service for the North confirmed!