This is nonsense, and plain offensive. Growing up with one parent doesn't mean someone will be lacking in areas based solely on the virtue of growing up with one parent.
Why are some people so against others doing well
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This is nonsense, and plain offensive. Growing up with one parent doesn't mean someone will be lacking in areas based solely on the virtue of growing up with one parent.
we did have an equal upbringing honestly you could not wish for more supportive loving parents than ours. seriously my mum could be out of a dysney film for Christs sake.
this isn't a imaginary example elmarko this is actually the reality between me and him.
Soldato
But surely certain unforeseen circumstances can limit a persons choices?.
It's worth noting that parental influences are just one factor, there aspects related to different genetic propensities, early childhood experiences (unrelated to parental style), other significant adult figures in early life, experiences & friends at school - all these factors have an undeniably huge impact on a child's growth & therefore their ability to succeed later in life.
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not really growing up with one parent you will be more exposed to one personality and one world view with two parents you get a better mix of ideas and opportunities different encouragements and also the opportunity to see your parents interact from when you were a baby and as you grow up potentially giving you more information to learn about interpersonal skills.
As well as further them. It seems you effectively want to account for unforseen circumstances with how much emphasis you are putting on "luck". It's like trying to make sure everyone runs at the same pace in a race so as one person doesn't better others.
only after they have made the choice.
You choose to speed for example luck will be if the BMW behind you happens to be a police car, the choice however was already made.
It's a multitude of sins.
1. Some people expect hand outs/etc without making any effort and are ignorant of how rich people have worked to earn their wealth, therefore they hate to make themselves feel better about themselves.
2. Some people want to work hard but are trapped in a situation and can't break the ceiling (education/skills/environment)
3. Others earn reasonable money but don't have the cash to pay as little tax as possible, like the rich and see it as a wrong doing, but if the system allows it......
1. Some people expect hand outs/etc without making any effort and are ignorant of how rich people have worked to earn their wealth, therefore they hate to make themselves feel better about themselves.
2. Some people want to work hard but are trapped in a situation and can't break the ceiling (education/skills/environment)
3. Others earn reasonable money but don't have the cash to pay as little tax as possible, like the rich and see it as a wrong doing, but if the system allows it......
I'm speaking from experience though, not just making an assumption. That and, just because one parent might not be present (for reasons outside of everyone's control really) doesn't mean that you can't develop these sort of things via immediate family too.
Soldato
Not at all, just make it so in this mandatory race which involves chance the losers of it are not left to live miserable lives in poverty as a punishment for it. I agree it can further them, it can propel a person far or push them back - it's still unknown variables & factors which impact of how we do in life.
I assume you believe in causality?, that B follows A & all actions & reactions are the result of prior causes. Why exactly would this not apply to human behaviour & development?.
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Soldato
what does she do now?
Speaking of 3, I think the vast majority of people would partake in tax avoidance (and evasion if they felt they could get away with it) given the opportunity. I suspect the majority of people who bemoan companies or the wealthy from avoiding tax, would jump at the chance to, for example, pay a tradesperson in cash to avoid VAT, or be happy to have avoided paying VAT on goods they bought from overseas.
you have experiences growing up with one parent and two parents?
cause i believe full experience on the matter would be mutually exclusive.
two parents of course could be worse than one depending on the parents, but for one person to objectively experience both options is impossible.
so it does provide a lovely opportunity for debate and exploration of the other side though.
But nobody said unknown variables don't have an impact. But you're the one that seems to think *something* should be done about unknown variables.
One parent.
My point is that I think it's unfair to claim someone has had a disadvantage in life based solely on the virtue of having one parent.
not a massive difference same school 2 years apart he went to Leeds university i went to uni of Manchester ( not the met i'm not that useless).
the differences in our outcomes are down to our personalities.
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I am speaking generally as in the whole of society. You understand what it means to speak generally right? That is however the non sense they teach now, that you don't need a father figure etc. This is why we have entire neighbourhoods of single moms living off child support and state benefits. Of course it is important to have a father figure, that does not mean that children brought up in a single parent household can not be successful. I am talking about when we have high percentage of the population growing up in single parent house holds, this will have consequences. You can disagree if you want that is fine.
Statistically it does show that children brought up with single parent households are more likely to not succeed than children brought up with a two parent house hold. This is due to various factors, economic, stability, move house and schools less and therefore better relationships and so on. It is quite a complicated topic.
There are also other political and economic factors that lead people to hate capitalism. Like bank bailouts, the mine closures up north which were blamed on capitalism and so on. You find when parents are of one political persuasion they past these ideals on to their children. People often look at the bank bailouts or mine closures and blame entire capitalist system. Instead of blaming specific corporations or the government.
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Soldato
Yes and?.
I do think social policy should reflect the world we live in & not be based upon protestant Christian work ethics.
Oh and an unfortunate blow-back of capitalism is greed, the "I want it now attitude" and "if this person has it, why can't i?". And an obsession with material things, status symbols, etc.
It's possible to be happy without vast amounts of material possessions and money, but because of greed and jealousy, we can't do it.
It's possible to be happy without vast amounts of material possessions and money, but because of greed and jealousy, we can't do it.
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Soldato
And the differences in your personalities are down to prior causes (genetics & environment) - neither of which you objectively had control over. (assuming you take the no free will stance as I do)
Jealously is the outcome, money is the cause.