2054Man you people kill me with your jokes!
When will supply get anywhere near demand?
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Why GPU prices are NOT likely to drop significantly EVER!
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The AMD drivers are great this time, as someone whose been using Intel/Nvidia for last 5 years a switch to Amd/Amd has been fine no real driver problems.
I don't think the old Amd driver issues will hold many back from buying a 6000 series Amd card.
Yes crypto miners are buying a lot of cards but there should be enough supply for them and gamers and then some. Stores in previous years were packed with GPUs whatever the buying action was.
Well some would consider a meal at $250 a serious waste of money. Not much of a return on my investment
I've paid pretty close (well compared to many others) to RRP for a 3060, so I'm pretty happy with that now. Happy gaming to me.
A meal isn't an investment, your paying for a one time good time, like going to watch a movie.
Didn't realize you had a 3060, it has great performance at 1080p and with 12GB should run new games for the next 2-3 years.
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Yeah you could be right there, if these bubbles start bursting then everything's up in the air.
1. I only play games at 4K (hate dropping down to 1440p or 1080p)
2. Look at the difficult 4k games like Watch Dogs Legion and Metro Exodus its only about 10 fps more for 6800 and that is hardly noticeable.
3. 35fps+ is enough for a smooth experience, you don't need 60 or 120fps every game, super image quality over fps any day.
4. Raster rendering is going nowhere fast, its nearing a dead end so logically MS are moving on to RT so why pay a premium of ≈£200 for the 6800 or higher GPU when its not necessary?
5. I'm a 20 years+ DirectX programmer, I know what to turn off to get a fps boost like ugly ambient occlusion effects etc.
6. You need too go back to the drawing board and look at data under the microscope not through a wide angle lens.
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The point was really that someone said ahh intel will save the day and allow for competition and price drops across the board.. which is not gonna happen as firstly the current tasters we have seen are at the lower end that wont best a 6700 nor a 3060Ti, and secondly like I said, especially on these forums, plenty of people choose nvidia as they maintain the stigma of AMD being that inferior brand. Intel will be the same. They would have to produce a true 'nvidia killer' to win that mindshare, and it aint gonna happen at their first attempt at releasing a dGPU. So it matters not what price an AMD card is im afraid, there were years that AMD cards were cheaper than nvidia, performing the same and still people bought nvidia because reasons.
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People are kidding themselves if they think 35fps is enough on PC. It's a slide show in a FPS.
If it stays above 30fps its playable. You could run and play cyberpunk 2077 at or above 30fps. Its when you start to head towards 20fps that it gets bad. Basically a 3060 ti can match a 6900xt in many DXR games. 3070 in all of them. A 3060 ti with DLSS can basically perform like a 6900xt.
Its a choice what you buy but ppl like me getting a 3080 etc are buying overkill.
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1. I only play games at 4K (hate dropping down to 1440p or 1080p)
2. Look at the difficult 4k games like Watch Dogs Legion and Metro Exodus its only about 10 fps more for 6800 and that is hardly noticeable.
3. 35fps+ is enough for a smooth experience, you don't need 60 or 120fps every game, super image quality over fps any day.
4. Raster rendering is going nowhere fast, its nearing a dead end so logically MS are moving on to RT so why pay a premium of ≈£200 for the 6800 or higher GPU when its not necessary?
5. I'm a 20 years+ DirectX programmer, I know what to turn off to get a fps boost like ugly ambient occlusion effects etc.
6. You need too go back to the drawing board and look at data under the microscope not through a wide angle lens.
Only 10fps is a BIG difference at 4k. 35fps and 45fps feel vastly different with 35fps definitely not being a smooth experience. Even the consoles are moving away from 30fps now.
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How 30fps its considered playable? With a few rare exception I find anything under 100fps unplayable(or not worth playing), for me games start to become enjoyable above 140fps.
It is to most people who started gaming in the XX century. Back then I considered (barely) playable Doom 2 at 15fps...
30 fps is not fun experience actually gives me a headache try panning around its awful for story based games I dont mind 60fps min
Interesting!
The lack of expected stock is worrying.
Everyone is blaming Samsung (which is a bit unfair as Nvidia were they ones to bet on getting cheaper wafers from them), which ties into a story ComputerBase ran saying that Samsung 5nm has yields as bad as 50%
https://www.computerbase.de/2021-07...zeige-fabrik-bei-5-nm-unter-50-prozent-yield/
The comment are interesting too:
Indy2410: "This means that I should consider buying now rather than waiting in the hope of falling prices, because raising prices [in the near term] are possible once again?"
Igor: "Speculation, but very likely. The prices have actually temporarily fallen only just in Germany anyhow"
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Tax man can't do anything because the items the scalpers bought is already paid tax. So you don't need to pay tax twice for the same product
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Im happy to pay now 750 than paying 1200
You know there are different forms of tax, right?
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Decent games back then had quality gameplay and were more progressive so FPS was of little issue, imo ofc.
PSX and N64 frame rates on FPS titles were as you say, 15fps.
These days quality games are far and few between, far too much pressure on graphics. Look at how Halo 6 got delayed, cause graphics, yet they appeared very good to me.
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