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Why GPU prices are NOT likely to drop significantly EVER!

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Just wait 10 years and you'll be able to get a 3090 for £50. I have a GTX 295 that I bought for £12 fully working, I have a 780ti that cost me £60 and a 580 that was £10, in fact it was free from my mate when he upgraded, but I gave him £10 in case I ever sold it so I didn't feel guilty. No one has a crystal ball, if someone had told you last year that GPU prices would go silly in just a few month you'd look at them funny, no one can tell what will happen in the future. If prices continue to be silly it will encourage competition so new players will enter the market, like Intel are poised to do.
 
rumple9 said:
China takes action against cryptocurrency mining, cryptominators ditch Radeon and RTX cards for 300 Euro

https://www.guru3d.com/news-story/c...-ditch-radeon-and-rtx-cards-for-300-euro.html
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Yeah I saw that on Gamers Nexus, 3060's for $300 which is £217, they are ex miners cards, but for ~£200 it's worth a punt. These cards are only a few months old, even if they had been running at 100% 24/7 would that equate to that much wear, especially when you see 20 year old GPU still working fine today with a bit of TLC.
 
yakacm said:
Yeah I saw that on Gamers Nexus, 3060's for $300 which is £217, they are ex miners cards, but for ~£200 it's worth a punt. These cards are only a few months old, even if they had been running at 100% 24/7 would that equate to that much wear, especially when you see 20 year old GPU still working fine today with a bit of TLC.
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Has anyone collated stats for how crypto currenty mining affects / does not affect GPU? (stats on large scale I mean)

There are articles like this but they dont prove anything really - https://www.gfinityesports.com/cryp...rency-bitcoin-mining-affect-graphics-card-pc/
 
See a few brand new 3070 Ti TUF models going for £600-700 in the past few days even one for £550, hopefully the prices continue to decrease and it isn't just a few scaplers panicking and selling "cheap" temporarily.
 
Looking like retailers here have to clear inventory first. There are some big price cuts on the cards in the $2k+ category though.

I am happy for computer retailers to be making good profits, but as I consumer it obviously sucks. Glad there is a little ray of light.
 
yakacm said:
Yeah I saw that on Gamers Nexus, 3060's for $300 which is £217, they are ex miners cards, but for ~£200 it's worth a punt. These cards are only a few months old, even if they had been running at 100% 24/7 would that equate to that much wear, especially when you see 20 year old GPU still working fine today with a bit of TLC.
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Lets be honest, all these GPU's will end up doing is this:

* A few benchmarks will be ran at various settings
* The internet will be browsed
* At most it will play 2 hours of a game maybe 3 nights a week

Its almost like the cards have done their work and now they can retire to a nice well ventilated RGB case in the UK. :D:D:D
 
KiNgPiN83 said:
Lets be honest, all these GPU's will end up doing is this:

* A few benchmarks will be ran at various settings
* The internet will be browsed
* At most it will play 2 hours of a game maybe 3 nights a week

Its almost like the cards have done their work and now they can retire to a nice well ventilated RGB case in the UK. :D:D:D
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Lol, they'll probably start telling you stories that start, you kids don't know you are born, when I was mining crypto currency...
 
Joxeon said:
I'd considering buying an AMD card but only if they are priced right and when you see 6700XT's going for £700+ while a 3080FE is £650 then they have a long way to go.
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The only reason I now have a 3060Ti is that AMD cards simply could not be had at RRP. There is no physical way to get AMD at RRP in the UK, and that's not looking likely to change, this year or even next.

So nV wins this round, and I have an nV GPU for the first time in many years. (GTX 460 -> HD 7850 -> R9 280X -> RX 480 -> Vega 56 -> 3060Ti).
 
FoxEye said:
The only reason I now have a 3060Ti is that AMD cards simply could not be had at RRP. There is no physical way to get AMD at RRP in the UK, and that's not looking likely to change, this year or even next.

So nV wins this round, and I have an nV GPU for the first time in many years. (GTX 460 -> HD 7850 -> R9 280X -> RX 480 -> Vega 56 -> 3060Ti).
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Not too dissimilar from me Fox. HD 7770 > HD7990 > R9 290X > GTX 1060 > Vega 56 > 3090FE. I tried for the 6800XT on launch and missed the seven that were on sale in UK :rolleyes: but a week or so after that had to just get the best of bad situation (this was only one in stock long enough to get beyond basket). The pricing of the AMD cards has been the worst of the two which I cant recall that for a long long time.
 
Th0nt said:
Not too dissimilar from me Fox. HD 7770 > HD7990 > R9 290X > GTX 1060 > Vega 56 > 3090FE. I tried for the 6800XT on launch and missed the seven that were on sale in UK :rolleyes: but a week or so after that had to just get the best of bad situation (this was only one in stock long enough to get beyond basket). The pricing of the AMD cards has been the worst of the two which I cant recall that for a long long time.
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It doesn't help that AMD won't sell direct to the UK (since Brexit), a situation which was supposed to be resolved sometime about now... I somehow doubt AMD cares that much about selling a handful of cards to the UK anyhow. And it was only ever a handful.

Meanwhile, FE drops are possible, whilst not exactly abundant. But possible beats impossible :p
 
KompuKare said:
Interesting!
The lack of expected stock is worrying.
Everyone is blaming Samsung (which is a bit unfair as Nvidia were they ones to bet on getting cheaper wafers from them), which ties into a story ComputerBase ran saying that Samsung 5nm has yields as bad as 50%
https://www.computerbase.de/2021-07...zeige-fabrik-bei-5-nm-unter-50-prozent-yield/
The comment are interesting too:

Indy2410: "This means that I should consider buying now rather than waiting in the hope of falling prices, because raising prices [in the near term] are possible once again?"
Igor: "Speculation, but very likely. The prices have actually temporarily fallen only just in Germany anyhow"
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Wouldn't be surprised tbh. The prices saw a precipitous drop from the peak but they still stabilised at ~2x MSRP for the most part (also in Eastern Europe, but we share prices with DE et al). I paid 670€ for my RX 6800 but the cheapest Ampere/RDNA card I can find is a 3060 for 900€, which itself is just a 2060 Super with more memory, and that was going for 400€ish before this gen launched. Hell even saw 2070 Supers go for half the 3060's price last BF.

If you add mining to it it might still make more sense to buy now, mine in order to subside the cost, than to wait for the price drop which might not be all that steep anyway. Hell let's say you mine half the day with your GPU (256bit gddr6) and think ETH is going to go back up to $4K by the time you buy a new GPU, and let's say you mine 6 months, that's still basically 0.2 Eth. Will more than pay itself for the difference, and of course no reason to stop then because new cards won't be out till late '22 - early '23 anyway (nevermind what the availability & price of those will be).
 
Smokey26 said:
People are kidding themselves if they think 35fps is enough on PC. It's a slide show in a FPS.
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Play MSFS at 35fps 4k its plenty good.
35fps+ is just as good against AI if you want a cinematic experience, don't get me wrong I play CSGO at 200+ fps when playing competitively but NOT for a cinematic experience and lower than 4k.
 
There is a thing called brand premium, that alone is going to make it unlikely we will see future significant price drops.

We might see cards get closer to MSRP if supply and demand balance improves, but dont expect much more then that.
 
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