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Why GPU prices are NOT likely to drop significantly EVER!

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I don't think people will actually pay those prices. Sure the enthusiasts will but the average person will not. They may pay a little more, but I think what they are far more likely to do is lower their expectations to meet their wallet. I know that I am already thinking in terms of doing that. Enthusiast I may well be, but there is no way in hell I am paying 1K for a graphics card that is only 30% better than my last one. I will just delay buying one until the cost/performance meets my requirement! If that means I have to get a lower spec card then so be it. If that means I have to get a lower spec card and wait for the generational increase in performance, say series 4000, then so be it. And I can't help but think that many other gamers will be the same. They will buy what their budget affords, not what NVIDIA demands. This is especially the case if the economy nose dives. No one will be able to justify that money on a graphics card.
 
Harold lloyd said:
Hi everybody,
I thought I would put in a post of why inflation is going to keep up and create a new normal in the world.
I know lots of you are sitting on the side lines waiting for a big drop in GPU prices before buying but the days of getting a decent GPU for £500 or £700 are well gone, expect to pay £1k+ for decent and £2k+ for top end.

1. inflation isn't something that just goes up a few points per year when it really appears there is a huge
surge which goes on and on

2. the commodities upcycle is only getting started=inflation

3. the US has trillions in debt, they don't have the money to pay bond holders so the fed and treasury will keep interest rates down and inflate their dollar to try and inflate away the debt=inflation.
Once inflation appears and surges like you seeing now they are *NOT* going to raise interest rates to combat it but keep inflation running high which is in their interests! (and what do you think BOE will do here in the UK!) what you'll get in a short space of time is a currency devaluation not just US/UK but globally.

4. You may know I'm predicting all 3 major US stock markets to go over finally during the last few months of this year. Now this will be the first of the major bubbles to pop followed by the housing bubble a bit later. As the huge bubbles pop you're going to get more currency devaluation=inflation!

5. GPU shortages/prices are just the tip of the iceberg, once you see the surge of inflation go into food and everyday items then its time to be worried.

See what happens in a few months and Prepare for the biggest financial event of your lifetimes!

Regards, Harold
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We heard all this when people had convinced themselves to pay £1500 for a 2080ti. Then I bought a 3080 for £649 (£100 less than I paid for the 1080ti it replaced, which I had purchased 3 years earlier). Nine months later, I picked up a 3060ti for £349.

The reason GPUs are changing hands for £1000's isn't down to the level of US national debt, it's because ill informed desperate people keep buying them at that price.

If the financial doomsday scenario you're predicting comes to pass, I seriously doubt that people will start panic buying GPUs for 4 grand.
 
A cursory glance at a popular auction site would suggest that GPU prices are indeed descending apace. Plentiful stock, average final selling price likely also lower. Hold your nerve, people. Now isn't the time to snatch at a GPU.
 
Harold lloyd said:
Yeah it's the same in Venezuela if they can't afford food they skip meals.
Huge demand=some desperate people will buy the miniscule stock at some point.
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Food is essential, a GPU is not.
You can also hold a GPU much longer if you stay at 1080.
You can also buy a console and skip buying a GPU for many years to come.
 
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The problem with current GPU prices has multiple reasons, a perfect storm for PC gamers. Even before the current supply/demand issues Nvidia have been charging ludicrous prices for their top tier GPUs for years and people paid them. So why would Nvidia or AMD be incentivised to stop releasing jokes like the 3090, 3080Ti or 6900 XT?

Normally when supply meets demand ideally we should be able to get GPUs like the 3080 and 6800 XT at MSRP. Or the same for the GPU stacks below them because a 6700 XT or 3070 should be ~£400 cards according to MSRP. The reason they are not is supply and demand and because people think an £800 RTX 3070 or 6700 XT are worth the asking price. They moan they are overpriced, yet buy them anyway and are actually part of the problem. So I see prices dropping more than they currently are, but about £150 above MSRP. I also see the MSRP rising in the future. So those people who demand a £300-£400 mid range GPU (1070 or 5700XT level) are going to need to accept it's no longer a thing.
 
KompuKare said:
We used to get the occasional moan about high Nvidia prices due "AMD not competing at the high-end" (AKA I want AMD to compete at the high-end so I can not buy their GPUs but instead get a Nvidia card for less...), but blaming AMD for the housing shortage is a new one!
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LOL how this is the truth!! Endless green teamers defending the hill on it like madmen. Now we have proof that it was cobblers just as we said it was before but they refused to accept - that if AMD offered the same, there will be no change. So no, no cheaper prices even with competition and even when intel squeezes in some market share, expect some more of the same three way expensiveness. They know how to milk the markets and have been doing the same tactics for over two decades now..
 
I'm seeing the same for the 6900 XT. So these joke cards being at MSRP means scalpers can't charge £1K plus for the 3080 or 6800 XT and that pushes the stack down to near normality. I expect prices to be ~£150 above MSRP for the mid/lower tiers once supply settles.
 
Scougar said:
Worst value card out there. The 6800 is barely any more money and is just sooo much better.
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£150 more. It is more than 20% better then? Because the price is 20% more. Actually asking... not being a smart alec :D From the benchmarks I've seen the 6800 isn't more than 20% faster than a 6700 XT.

Also some 6700 XT here at OCUK are £690, which is a lot less than £900. It trades blows with a 3070, which itself is hovering around £900. In my book it's actually punching above it's price (relatively speaking. I still think the prices are utterly bananas overall).

In fact, the 3070 looks to be the poorest value of the lot at the £920 being asked for. Will probably receive some neg comments for this but that's how I see it.
 
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Depends on your resolution and if you want to improve it at some point in the future. I guess the 3070 will cut 1440p but likely need a hand out from DLSS. You cant really get beyond the 3080FE as the standard for price Im afraid. If the 6800XT was the same price it would be an alternative, but with 6700XT prices being £700 I have yet to see a 6800 or 6800XT at anywhere near that yet.
 
The_Arbiter said:
About 18% better at 1080p according to HUB which is reliable.

No idea on current 6800 prices. Cheapest 6700xt has been £680 this last week i've seen.
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Yeah so as I said, 6800 performance and price scales perfectly with a 6700 XT - costs about 20% more and about 20% more performance (at the quoted £750 for a 6700 XT). So I don’t get how the earlier poster believes a 6800 is great value over a 6700 XT. It isn’t.

And it’s actually even better than that for the 6700 XT - as you say £680 was doable this week, vs. £900 for a 6800. +20% performance for +25% cost… No thanks!
 
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