Why is Bradford so hated?

I've never been there. But my mate drove through Bradford a couple of years ago. I'll let you know what he thought of it if the police ever do find him.
 
Their local council has probably squandered loads of money on wasteful vanity projects, where I live the council spent about £100,000 on a huge TV for the town square to show pretty much nothing on it, all it did was look eye sore for about 2 years before they took it down never to be seen again.

I bet they vote Labour.
 
SkodaMart said:
Ignoring Bradford for a moment.
Can anyone think of a UK city or town where multiculturalism has actually worked?
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Anywhere where there is a diverse range of cultures and it's not just been a mass invasion of one and overtaking the previous majority in a quick manner of time.

Anywhere there is massive amounts of a single ethnicity or race flocking and overtaking a specific area there has been issues.

But if it's small and staggered and varied it's worked well. Problem is for some reason they all want to move to a different country and then live right next to everyone else who left the same country as them so then it's no different to the country they left. I've literally met someone who lived here for years yet didn't speak a lick of English because he never needed to.

You have pockets in Glasgow where it's majority Romanians for instance and pockets where it's majority Pakistani. That's never going to work apart for them. It's going to alienate everyone else. I had to go pick up some Asian sweets and on the way there spotted a couple of Romanians during the middle of the day and one thought rather than going up the alleyway 15 seconds away it was okay to take a pee at 4pm in broad daylight in the middle of a busy road. Kids about and everything.

Outwith those areas you get people who are well integrated. You can always tell who lives where too as in I could tell at work within 5 seconds of speaking with someone where they stayed. They all tend to have a similar mentality from the old country just like the Romanian who was happy to pee wherever just like back in Romania.
 
Maccy said:
Let's not resort to changing the city name which could suggest you're implying something else...
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To be fair it's well known as that at least up here.

It's a diverse city but very split. If you drive through to get to the A1 you see mostly the ugly parts which any city has. But centrally it isn't a bad place like it's made out. There isn't much to see though unless you go to the Media Museum or the smaller museums and Halls. Places like Leeds are a better place to visit really.
 
Used to live near Bradford. Some of its bad reputation may be deserved (after all there are still some rough areas, some very segregated immigrant communities, some very segregated poor white areas, the riots 20 years ago etc), but in the past couple of decades I think it's been on the up really. For one thing the massive hole in the centre has now been filled in and there's a little shopping centre! Parts of the city centre are quite ok, and most of the city isn't as rough as some people make out. Other positives are the university (people joke about it, but actually has some well respected departments eg peace studies), amazing Pakistani/kashmiri/indian restaurants, the film museum, some very nice old buildings in the centre, and nearby countryside and areas such as Saltaire (a world heritage site!)

Historically Bradford was a wealthy place, but along with many other northern cities Bradford was hit really hard by deindustrialisation and even though it has recovered a bit now, poverty was and is rife. For whatever reason, perhaps location, perhaps proximity to other cities Bradford wasn't able to bounce back as fast as some of the others (eg Bradford is a little bit out of the way and next door to Leeds, which is larger and was more successful at drawing other business in, perhaps business which otherwise might have gone to Bradford).

I don't think Bradford's problems are unique either - plenty of other northern towns and cities have lots of poverty, rough areas, segregated immigrant communities etc. Maybe Bradford is just the most well known of this sort of place because it's larger than some other examples and the race riots really increased its profile.
 
FishFluff said:
Could be worse, it could be Manchester. I'd rather eat my own balls than live in that hole of a place.
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I used to work for a company based in London and Manchester so I would pop up to Manny every few weeks. A few times I'd go out for drinks etc there and found the centre of town really nice. The outskirts though were terrible. But overall I quite liked Manchester. Not been there for a few years though.
 
Rumour has it that Ranulph Fiennes has saved his last, most hazardous, exploration until last. He's planning to cross Bradford next year without a support crew.
 
Hades said:
Rumour has it that Ranulph Fiennes has saved his last, most hazardous, exploration until last. He's planning to cross Bradford next year without a support crew.
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:D

edit: he would have more luck than Ewan McGregor & Charlie trying to cross London by motorcycle.
 
chroniclard said:
Arguably London. One of the most ethnically diverse cities in the world.
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Diversity does not equal integration, though.
Multiculturalism is about peaceful coexistence and integration into a common identity... I remember being taught in school that Southall was a shining example of this, and we even had a field trip round all the different religions' buildings. Then when we read the local news, it was full of violence and clashes between the different races, religions and cultures.

Peoples living so divided from each other is not multiculturalism. I'd go so far as to say South Africa is more multicultural than anything the UK has.
 
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