WikiLeaks Set To Reveal US-UFO War In Southern Ocean

This "story" was written by Sorcha Faal - I well known peddler of complete B.S.

All the stories usually begin with a report circulating around the Kremlin to give some semblance of credibility without being easy to verify.

I actually believe in a lot of stuff (why not? We really don't understand the universe...) but this story is complete tripe and is just aimed at discrediting the subject.......even more.
 
Well. I'm interested.

I'm not on the Majick wagon, I don't believe any of the crap grainy videos that turn up from small town USA or rural Mexico. However, 100 years ago they laughed at the idea of recording sound. Before that, they laughed at the suggestion that Earth was a sphere. Hell, 50 years ago, who would have thought that the entire planet would be interconnected with instant communication and information? Imagine what we'll know tomorrow.

I'm certainly more open to the idea of some new adversary than God, for example. People, historically, are too quick to laugh off the unknown.
 
DampCat said:
Well. I'm interested.

I'm not on the Majick wagon, I don't believe any of the crap grainy videos that turn up from small town USA or rural Mexico. However, 100 years ago they laughed at the idea of recording sound. Before that, they laughed at the suggestion that Earth was a sphere. Hell, 50 years ago, who would have thought that the entire planet would be interconnected with instant communication and information? Imagine what we'll know tomorrow.

I'm certainly more open to the idea of some new adversary than God, for example. People, historically, are too quick to laugh off the unknown.
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People have accepted the Earth was a sphere since civilisation began. We were recording sound somewhat more than 100 years ago to. As for trying to build global communication networks, they have been working on that since the penny post.
 
e36Adz said:
Except that aliens or any other life form, would be a creation of God. God by definition is the creator, is separate from everything else in existance because God was not created at any point.

I agree though that any entity existing outside our world is technically 'alien', but this thread refers to some sort of war occuring between the USA and UFOs. We have purposely been fed all this UFO nonsense for decades now, maybe in the next few years we will see why.

Hologram technology is here folks.
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How do you know that God created these other life forms? Could 'God' not just be an advanced alien race which created mankind? (Ancient Astronaut theory and all that).

Anyway, back in topic...

The Nazi's did have a base in Anartica and according to the interwebs the Germans did have flying saucers and this is where they tested./built them. There are pictures and loads of information available which i have read and it does seem possible that it is true.

If they do/did have the tech, then it is most likely possible that the Americans want to have this tech as well which would explain why the Americans wanted to set up a base in Anartica, but according to the interwebs again, they have tried and failed every time.
 
Castiel said:
People have accepted the Earth was a sphere since civilisation began. We were recording sound somewhat more than 100 years ago to. As for trying to build global communication networks, they have been working on that since the penny post.
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It wasn't proved until 9th century by some Arab dude. Pythagoras had considered it. Others dismissed it.

133 years.

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Thanks for your input.
 
DampCat said:
People, historically, are too quick to laugh off the unknown.
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If somebody could provide 100% proof then we would all be open to the unknown but I'm afraid I've been searching and reading for 39 years and seen nothing to convince me (I did believe when I was around 13 to 18 though).
I still watch every documentary I can get my hands on but most of the time I shout at the idiots on the TV.
 
all this uhh "shizzle".... is interesting and all but heres a tiny teenny problem


how do you tell that which is true from that which is false?

Perhaps more important than that... does it matter?

Example: a great many people do not believe in the literal truth of the Bible but they accept the message, the ethos or creed it espouses.

If the devil delivers the message that we should all love each other and act with kindness...is he the devil or God?
 
DampCat said:
It wasn't proved until 9th century by some Arab dude. Pythagoras had considered it. Others dismissed it.

133 years.

Instant/Stored Information.

Thanks for your input.
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Apollonius of Perga (c262BC) introduced Planetary models all based on spherical planets...


Greek astronomy gave the spherical nature of the Earth as a scientific fact in the 3rd century BC.

The flat earth belief is largely a fallacy and myth. It was never widely thought of outside Mesopotamia over 6 thousand years ago.

Eratosthenes even estimated the Earths circumference in 240BC.


The Arab you refer to was probably the translation of Aryabhatiya in the 8/9th century which was written half a millennia beforehand.

The works of the classical Indian astronomer and mathematician, Aryabhata (476–550 AD), deal with the sphericity of the Earth and the motion of the planets. The final two parts of his Sanskrit magnum opus, the Aryabhatiya, which were named the Kalakriya ("reckoning of time") and the Gola ("sphere"), state that the Earth is spherical and that its circumference is 4,967 yojanas, which in modern units is 39,968 km, which is only 62 km less than the current value of 40,030 km. He also stated that the apparent rotation of the celestial objects was due to the actual rotation of the Earth, calculating the length of the sidereal day to be 23 hours, 56 minutes and 4.1 seconds, which is also surprisingly accurate. The 8th century Arabic version of the Aryabhatiya was translated into Latin in the 13th century.
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I genuinely don't understand the "I believe" or the "I don't believe" camp tbh. Both approach it with an almost religious blind faith that what they believe is correct and are totally un-accepting of any evidence that counters their belief system.

Its bonkers and neither side can take the moral high ground either as they both display the same close mindedness as each other.

In nature, the universe and to an extent science pretty much anything goes. There are surprises around every corner for us and to think that we know it all is folly. I realised this a long long time ago and it was that realising that lead me to adopt a fortean approach to it, Sure its a little sitting on the fence and involves some moderate scepticism but it allows me the freedom to read with interest pretty much any subject without having to place myself in one camp or the other. Paranormal stuff be it true or a load of rubbish, for me is still one of the most compelling and interesting subjects ever.
 
People have always 'known' the earth was spherical and certainly not stupid enough to think it was flat. It was some guy (not that many years ago) who created a metaphor or story that some people still use today.
 
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