Will Ryzen 6000 CPUs be based on the N6 fab process (Warhol chip) and release in 2021?

Destination · 27 Apr 2021 at 14:58

Will worhol get new number and need new chipsets, or get XT branding and work in current amount?

g67575 · 27 Apr 2021 at 15:44

I'm still sceptical about the codename of the CPU itself, we've seen nothing that confirms 6nm CPUs or Warhol exist at all, yet. I think it could be 3-4 more months before AMD confirms their roadmap for this year.

humbug · 27 Apr 2021 at 16:12

g67575 said:
I'm still sceptical about the codename of the CPU itself, we've seen nothing that confirms 6nm CPUs or Warhol exist at all, yet. I think it could be 3-4 more months before AMD confirms their roadmap for this year.

You might be right.

https://www.hardwaretimes.com/amd-zen-3-warhol-cpus-reportedly-postponed-or-cancelled/

LordBeggar · 27 Apr 2021 at 16:44

I dont think we will see 6000 series processors this year with current chip shortage and AMD is on top when it comes to performance

Miganto · 27 Apr 2021 at 18:13

LordBeggar said:
I dont think we will see 6000 series processors this year with current chip shortage and AMD is on top when it comes to performance

Indeed, based on the current situation, they may just forego any production time on the chip and move on to getting sure zen4 is ready and raring to go whilst continuing to produce chips that are perfectly good still.

Hopefully not, i've set my sights on having that as my time to upgrade - the final architecture on a scale is always good for a long time.

humbug · 27 Apr 2021 at 18:17

When can we start blaming Intel for AMD's stagnation? the circle will be complete.

4K8KW10 · 27 Apr 2021 at 19:07

Is it cancelled?

AMD Zen 5 Ryzen Desktop APUs Codenamed Strix Point, Features Hybrid Core Architecture on 3nm Process Node (wccftech.com)

Destination · 27 Apr 2021 at 19:16

Wtfcch no point even considering their leaks.
They're going to be as accurate as usercrapbench

Bomberh · 27 Apr 2021 at 19:19

g67575 said:
Does anyone think the Ryzen 6000 series (Warhol) will be 7nm based instead, and utilize ddr4 memory on an AM4 CPU socket?

Its possible the N6 node rumours are wrong...

Warhol will be the last AM4 CPU series.

4K8KW10 · 27 Apr 2021 at 19:20

Destination said:
Wtfcch no point even considering their leaks.
They're going to be as accurate as usercrapbench

It's a simple rebrand, not worth it for a release, so maybe it's a good news that they won't waste their efforts and time about something worthless?

Bomberh · 27 Apr 2021 at 19:31

Armageus said:
LOL - must have imagined my DDR4-3200 working just fine out of the box

same here with my, Team Group 8Pack Edition 32GB (2x16GB) DDR4 PC4-28800CL16 3600MHz Dual Channel, straight of the box and working fine in my, ASUS ROG Crosshair VIII Formula (AMD AM4 DDR4 X570 Chipset ATX Motherboard (BIOS Version 3402 22/03/2021).

g67575 · 27 Apr 2021 at 22:32

If a refresh of Zen 3 is really cancelled, Intel should do very well with Alder Lake (after many years of quite small, incremental improvements on 14nm), early next year. I think this would only increase the chance of Alder Lake launching next year also (not Q4 2021).

Considering that TSMC's improved 5nm fab. process (N5P) is scheduled for volume production sometime this year, I don't see a reason why we wouldn't see Zen 4 CPUs released by Q3 2022, particularly if AMD wants to release a competitor to Alder Lake more quickly.

Link here: https://www.anandtech.com/show/1602...technology-details-full-node-scaling-for-2h22

g67575 · 27 Apr 2021 at 23:07

LordBeggar said:
I dont think we will see 6000 series processors this year with current chip shortage and AMD is on top when it comes to performance

Yup, this decision could be made purely on the fail that was Rocket Lake.

random_matt · 28 Apr 2021 at 11:04

Agree to the probable cancellation. Not sure what is happening to these apparent new X570 mobo's though.

Miganto · 28 Apr 2021 at 14:43

humbug said:
When can we start blaming Intel for AMD's stagnation? the circle will be complete.

And then a new company rises from the ashes of this long, dark war to bring hope to millions... only to be drawn into the conflict from both sides.

humbug · 28 Apr 2021 at 16:14

Miganto said:
And then a new company rises from the ashes of this long, dark war to bring hope to millions... only to be drawn into the conflict from both sides.

At this point, with people looking at ARM for their own designs, its possible...

Miganto · 28 Apr 2021 at 17:13

humbug said:
At this point, with people looking at ARM for their own designs, its possible...

Indeed

Maybe nVidia in a few years if their Grace CPU turns out well.

humbug · 28 Apr 2021 at 17:40

Miganto said:
Indeed
Maybe nVidia in a few years if their Grace CPU turns out well.

yea...

LordBeggar · 29 Apr 2021 at 12:45

g67575 said:
Yup, this decision could be made purely on the fail that was Rocket Lake.

Yep. Hopefully Intels new 10nm process will give a good fight to AMD's latest processors

Donnie Fisher · 1 May 2021 at 23:43

I think it would be wrong to not release just because you think the competition may not be as good as your product. A very presumptuous attitude to take if that were the case.