Windows 10

I've had no end of trouble since installing the W10 preview. The system crashes regularly, Project Spartan is unreliable and seems to crash/freeze a lot (I've been using Chrome instead, the touch screen goes loopy every so often, performance is poor, the OS stutters along and my battery gets hammered when in standby (to the point that I have to plug the tablet in at night, otherwise the battery is dead in the morning). Oh, and PIN Unlock doesn't work, which is a pain as my Microsoft ID password is long and complicated.

Full reinstall time I guess. Just can't decide whether to go back to 8.1 or give 10 another shot.
 
For those who have tried the Preview of Windows 10 and then decided to go back to 8.1, is everything returned to the position exactly as it was before, or do any programs have to be tweaked, or re-installed?
 
For those who have tried the Preview of Windows 10 and then decided to go back to 8.1, is everything returned to the position exactly as it was before, or do any programs have to be tweaked, or re-installed?

Presume the worst and install to a clean partition is probably best. Or backup and be ready to reinstall that to go backwards. The preview is constantly running updates so I wouldnt recommend it as your main os to work on, generally its fine overall and I think the latest version allows people to stop or pause this
 
Thanks, but I don't think that the 'average windows user' would want to do all that... assuming of course that they would have installed the Preview anyway!

I presume there will be another preview version released before it goes to 'gold'... or will there?
 
I do love MS's logic on selling sometimes.

Those that bought Vista have to in effect pay twice for what MS admit was a truly awful OS. Why don't MS just come out and give the OS for free to non business users?

That way I might be inclined to believe their own hype.
 
You're still using Vista? :confused:

Most Vista era kit won't have drivers for Windows 10. The OS is eight years old and hasn't been sold with any PCs for six.

MS logic is buy a new PC, get a copy of Windows 10 included.
 
I got a laptop with vista and a free upgrade to 7 if I paid the postage, was a no brainer so did this and has been working fine since.
 
You're still using Vista? :confused:

Most Vista era kit won't have drivers for Windows 10. The OS is eight years old and hasn't been sold with any PCs for six.

MS logic is buy a new PC, get a copy of Windows 10 included.

Windows Vista, 7, 8 and 10 all use the same kernel. So old hardware on vista should work for Windows 10 without hunting for drivers.

Unless it's hardware for a crappy company which no longer exists.
 
Does anyone know if the swipe gesture (touch) for back/forward gesture has been re-instated into Edge? I know it wasn't there in earlier builds, but I'm hoping it gets re-instated.
 
I do love MS's logic on selling sometimes.

Those that bought Vista have to in effect pay twice for what MS admit was a truly awful OS. Why don't MS just come out and give the OS for free to non business users?

That way I might be inclined to believe their own hype.

The cut off has to be somwhwere.

If they included Vista why not XP? If they included XP why not 2000? Etc, etc.

Also, how do you work out your being forced to "pay twice"?
 
The cut off has to be somwhwere.

If they included Vista why not XP? If they included XP why not 2000? Etc, etc.

Also, how do you work out your being forced to "pay twice"?

Because MS sold Vista as the next generation. It was, but badly executed.

Like someone has said Vista, 7, 8 all are the same engine so why just give out free upgrades to 7 and 8? I never paid for another MS OS after Vista debacle and wont be doing either by the way they are doing this.
 
I'm sure Microsoft are really concerned about you and the other 5 people still running Vista.

Latest stats show 1.9% of desktops are running Vista. Your insignificant, Microsoft don't care about you, sorry. Quite why you feel so entitled to a free upgrade when your running an OS that will be 4 generations old is beyond me. Frankly Microsoft didn't have to give it away at all.

Linux from now on for you then?
 
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I've successfully installed an early version of the Windows 10 preview (x64), and decided to have another play with the latest one. I've downloaded the UK English x64 ISO and verified the SHA1 as matching. After burning a DVD under Linux Mint I rebooted, hit the 'setup' button and got a 'Load error: Media drivers missing' error. I then made a live USB (using WinUSB) and had the same outcome. After burning a second DVD with a different app (xfburn instead of brasero) I had the same issue again.

Google suggests it's a 'duff media' error, but since I've verified the hash, burnt two DVDs (Verbatim good quality discs) and also a USB which all fail, I'm struggling to blame the media. It's just an old AMD system which needs no special drivers and as stated earlier Win10 versions installed OK.

I do have Linux Mint installed on my SSD (ext4) and a second hard drive (NTFS) with backups on it. Could the disc setup be confusing things? I'm loathe to wipe everything just to find out I'm no further on and I then have to reinstall Linux and set it all up again.

Any help appreciated. I'm just about to make a new USB stick on my MacBook Pro this time, to see if that makes a difference, but I doubt it. Thanks in advance.
 
Because MS sold Vista as the next generation. It was, but badly executed.

Like someone has said Vista, 7, 8 all are the same engine so why just give out free upgrades to 7 and 8? I never paid for another MS OS after Vista debacle and wont be doing either by the way they are doing this.

They share the same major version number of the kernel. That's the only significance, nothing more.

Even my mainboard and CPU didn't have support for Vista when launched, nearly 2 years ago now. So come an upgrade you'll be stuffed anyway unless you go open source.
 
If you install Windows 10 Insider Preview, on release would you then have to install 8.1 again to then upgrade to 10 again?
 
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