Windows 10

So MS are using the win 10 users as guinea pigs for businesses.
The reg hack to turn off auto updates doesn't work anymore.

Makes you think why they have such a aggressive update policy?
 
Steampunk said:
There were some MS comments that quite carefully said that non-genuine Windows would not be entitled to the upgrade. They didn't mention that some of the cleverest hacks aren't just messing about with Windows files to make Windows look genuine. They are actually using the OEM loophole to make Windows activation consider them as genuine OEM machines entitled to the upgrade.

If MS systems are saying your machine is genuine Windows, you'll get the upgrade offer, although I wonder what happens when you have Win 10 installed with presumably some new activation/anti-pirate technology that comes with it. You may suddenly find yourself with an installed OS that comes up as non-genuine, but an offer to upgrade to a real key for £99.

Having said that, there have been comments in the past about MS considering piracy as "try before you buy" and how they'd rather give it away to people (such as students with no money) than let them go to other OSes. MS want to get people into the MS ecosystem, and that's more important then ever given their new focus on the online service/app store type of business model.
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I have setup a VM using a dodgy copy of windows 7 pro. legal ISO downloaded and all Updates a key generator used once installed to activate windows.

I got the W10 logo appear down the bottom right asking me to reserve my copy of windows 10
 
Businesses will still be able to control which updates are delivered to domain computers I would think you just can't stop the computers checking your servers for updates.
 
Rroff said:
You'll get the colours but not aero AFAIK.
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Ace Modder said:
well Windows 10 didnt have the option to set colour title bars for windowed programs.

I have found a fix.

Step 1: Go to C:\Windows\Resources\Themes
Step 2: Copy the "aero" folder and paste it into the same Themes directory. Confirm the User Access Control request (UAC) and skip for all MSS files when prompted.
Step 3: Rename the "aero - Copy" folder to "windows" and confirm the UAC request if prompted.
Step 4: Go into the "windows" folder you just created and rename aero.msstyles to windows.msstyles. Confirm the UAC request.
Step 5: Go into the En-US folder and rename aero.msstyles.mui file to windows.msstyles.mui.
Step 6: Hit the back button twice and return to the Themes directory. Copy the aero file and place it on your desktop. Rename it to windows and open it with notepad.
Step 7: Under the [VisualStyles] section, find: Path=%ResourceDir%\Themes\Aero\Aero.msstyles
Step 8: Replace it with: Path=%ResourceDir%\Themes\windows\windows.msstyles
Step 9: Save it and then double click the file to enable colored titlebars!

Then once you have done this you need to run this:
%windir%\System32\rundll32.exe shell32.dll,Control_RunDLL desk.cpl,Advanced,@Advanced

Then you can set your colours etc like previous versions of windows.
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deuse said:
So MS are using the win 10 users as guinea pigs for businesses.
The reg hack to turn off auto updates doesn't work anymore.

Makes you think why they have such a aggressive update policy?
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Its not aggressive, its sensible.

Your just going to great lengths to ignore that in order to make Microsoft seem evil.

Why are you so against taking security fixes, patches, and new features? Whats your 'theory' behind Microsofts evil plan?
 
anything I don't mind said:
That whole insider program was a waste of time. MS did not implement one single suggestion received from anyone that i am aware.
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They are collecting metrics from a big pool of test subjects. They don't care about what you think or want, just if their stuff gets broken by the test subjects.

There was probably a bit of "hearts and minds" going on there too, especially in the wake of the Win 8 rejection by customers. Insider was effectively an open beta to help convince people that Win 10 was viable and should not be dismissed like Win 8.

I think it's also helping MS get compatibility as high as possible. When I first got the upgrade offer icon, there was a warning about one current piece of software I'm using, but that disappeared after a week, so I guess somewhere along the line, compatibility got sorted.
 
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anything I don't mind said:
That whole insider program was a waste of time. MS did not implement one single suggestion received from anyone that i am aware.
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Steampunk said:
They are collecting metrics from a big pool of test subjects. They don't care about what you think or want, just if their stuff gets broken by the test subjects.

There was probably a bit of "hearts and minds" going on there too, especially in the wake of the Win 8 rejection by customers. Insider was effectively an open beta to help convince people that Win 10 was viable and should not be dismissed like Win 8.
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Up until RTM the Insider Program is not about implementing your suggestions, its about getting a stable baseline released.

After RTM the Insider Program shifts its focus onto developing and testing features and fixes, and will start looking at implemented user requested enhancements.

Rule 1 of software development, don't allow the scope to creep prior to release.
 
I think its way too early for that.

With the recent few builds they were available to us the day after they were signed off. In reality they could compile the RTM build on the 27th July and it still be available globally on the 29th without much trouble.
 
kayomani said:
No they need to ship to manufacturers well before then, its not exactly an overnight thing for them to update their new products.
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They aren't shipping to manufacturers like they have previously. Products with Windows 10 pre-installed won't appear on shelves until September at the earliest.

Theres no need to. As all new PCs sold after 29th with 8.1 on will automatically get the 10 upgrade. There is no need to get manufacturers shipping products with 10 on before launching.

Basically they have deleted the traditional delay between RTM and release.
 
Windows 10 (Windows To Go) was successful onto my USB Penflash to boot up operating system from the stick. Pretty very good, but you need a very fast penflash thought. Also work well under WD My Passport Enterprise too.
 
Burnsy2023 said:
Bingo, but that's part of MS' strategy to have continual deployment of new features through incremental WU. It's not about big releases anymore.
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Indeed, but only after the initial release on the 29th.

People saying the Insider Program was useless have missed the point. Its bearly even started yet. Once W10 is out there and a massive slice of the global PC market is using it, the Insider Program will be the test bed for all updates and enhancements going forward. Its then that they will turn their attention to all the user requested changes.
 
I expect Windows 10 to be hated like Windows 8 at launch - just because people hate change, but over time it will be adopted and more and more people will start to like it, and that will co-inside with MS adding feature sets to it etc.

I'm actually really looking forward to Windows 10 launch.

Once question I have, If I upgrade my main PC os to Windows 10 now, will I need a fresh reinstall upon launch or not? Will the update just make it as final release version?
 
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