Windows 10

HEADRAT · 17 Jun 2016 at 07:28

Thought I'd give Edge another try.

Pinned about 10 sites, PC seemed sluggish, that's because Edge is using about 90% CPU!!!! (checked in Task Manager, each tab was chewing loads of CPU)

Unpinned all the sites again and issue goes away, Win10 seems to eat CPU for each site you pin

Now just tried it again, pinned 10 sites and it seems fine, just don't get it!

V F · 17 Jun 2016 at 15:16

Rroff said:
What got me was the earlier public builds where icons literally looked like someone with no actual artistic ability knocked them up on their lunch break in MS Paint - in every case high quality icons for the same thing, fitting the style required, exist in previous OS that would have done fine as place holders at least even if they planned on something new down the line - by no exaggeration even Windows 3.xx had better looking ones in its icon libraries.

Problem is, some clients are a pain to deal with. You can present them with the best of icons but it isn't what "they" want.

I remember dealing with some and they said they wanted less of that polish and flash while wanting it very simple and basic. This was what they were happy with. Yet I personally thought they were garbage. I remember thinking back to then how it was possible for one to lower ones standards but you have to give them what they want. It isn't always in control of the actual artist. Sometimes you're dealing with 15 to 25 opinions for final approval. Two weeks can pass tweaking/refining one icon from all these people approving it within the company. Then out of the blue some decide to go on a different artistic path so you've to start all over again near the end of those two weeks.

Then some companies would rather pay creators less money for cheaper/less skilled artists and be happy with it.

Glaucus · 18 Jun 2016 at 08:11

nice feature

We are happy to announce a new tool that lets you start fresh with a clean installation of Windows. Use this tool to install a clean copy of the most recent version of Windows, and remove apps that came pre-installed or that you installed on your PC.

This tool is currently only available to Windows Insiders, and will only work on recent Windows 10 Insider Preview released builds (build 14342 or later).

as far as I can tell this is a feature specifically designed to get rid of bloatware that comes preinstalled on new computers.

HEADRAT said:
Thought I'd give Edge another try.

Pinned about 10 sites, PC seemed sluggish, that's because Edge is using about 90% CPU!!!! (checked in Task Manager, each tab was chewing loads of CPU)

Unpinned all the sites again and issue goes away, Win10 seems to eat CPU for each site you pin

Now just tried it again, pinned 10 sites and it seems fine, just don't get it!

what version are you on, I do not get this issue.
again unless you are in the insider preview, don't bother trying Edge as its under developed. I still don't get why they released it with w10, all it's achieved is putting people off.
once anniversary update comes out try it again, its massively improved and actually a good browser now.

Rroff · 18 Jun 2016 at 11:18

If I couldn't hate Windows 10 more - was just trying to use my Windows 10 tablet alongside my desktop while playing a game and it was running unusually sluggish - pulled up task manager and Service Host: Local System chewing CPU, Disk and Network - doing something with Windows update :| seriously not even funny any more guess I'm gonna have to hard disable it the nasty way.

MagicBoy · 18 Jun 2016 at 11:20

It is a few days after Patch Tuesday...

Rroff · 18 Jun 2016 at 11:27

What do you mean?

MagicBoy · 18 Jun 2016 at 11:33

As your Google skills suck I'll copy and paste for you :

The Internetz said:
Patch Tuesday (a.k.a. Update Tuesday[1]) is an unofficial term used to refer to when Microsoft regularly releases security patches for its software products. It is widely referred to in this way by the industry.[2][3][4] Microsoft formalized Patch Tuesday in October 2003.[5]

Patch Tuesday occurs on the second, and sometimes fourth, Tuesday of each month in North America.

Short version. Lots of updates on the second Tuesday of the month. PCs go a bit mental a couple of days after when they download and install them in the background. Like your tablet.

Rroff · 18 Jun 2016 at 11:35

I'm aware of what "patch Tuesday" is I wasn't sure what your inference was in regard to my post.

Most of my systems are on 7 and have some aspect of manual control over updates - case in point on my 8 tablet I would have done whatever then left it checking for updates once I've done - no end user should have to worry about whether Windows is going to kick in with some update related stuff before they do any task that is just absurd and utterly stupid.

MagicBoy · 18 Jun 2016 at 11:36

MagicBoy said:
PCs go a bit mental a couple of days after when they download and install them in the background. Like your tablet.

Rroff · 18 Jun 2016 at 11:39

Which for me is unacceptable behaviour and why I have Windows update setup for better behaviour in 7, etc. but without doing one or other of some "under the hood" tweaks which generally have some undesired side effect impossible to do in 10.

MagicBoy · 18 Jun 2016 at 11:45

Whatever. I just leave it on the default behaviour, accept it as one of those things and go make a brew. Not worth getting annoyed about.

Rroff · 18 Jun 2016 at 11:46

Thats great for you - kind of defeats one of the purposes of a tablet to be able to pick it up and quickly do stuff then put it down again :S its been sitting here for over half an hour now (got to 95% done on the update) mostly at ~70% CPU use and ~70% disc use which makes doing anything else quite painful.

EDIT: Case in point I was in the middle of playing an online game and wanted to quickly check an game guide/map without tabbing out of what I was doing - hardly the situation to go make a brew, etc. your perspective on why this isn't ideal behaviour seems to be as narrow as MS's.

Richeh · 19 Jun 2016 at 23:04

Have installed W10 on a clean install a few days ago. I am upgrading earlier than usual but my 8.1 install was years old and felt like a cleanup. I'm having a few basic issues I was wondering if anyone else knew anything about, googling is not paying off.

I have a r290 with the latest amd drivers. My gfx goes via HDMI to my AV receiver which always adds a few potential problems and im getting them.

I am getting the odd random sound dropout/glitch in Kodi and general desktop use. I get full sound dropouts on the desktop (youtube, windows media player etc) if I set higher than DVD quality in the sound device preferences. Greatly reduced at DVD quality but still the odd glitch. I remember similar issues win 7 onwards but must have found a fix ive completely forgotten!

Any ideas?

MagicBoy · 20 Jun 2016 at 00:25

Rroff said:
Thats great for you - kind of defeats one of the purposes of a tablet to be able to pick it up and quickly do stuff then put it down again :S its been sitting here for over half an hour now (got to 95% done on the update) mostly at ~70% CPU use and ~70% disc use which makes doing anything else quite painful.

EDIT: Case in point I was in the middle of playing an online game and wanted to quickly check an game guide/map without tabbing out of what I was doing - hardly the situation to go make a brew, etc. your perspective on why this isn't ideal behaviour seems to be as narrow as MS's.

10/10 for playing the victim.

Rroff · 20 Jun 2016 at 12:07

Not sure how you see that as playing the victim - everyone has a different approach to how they use an OS and what they need from it - what works for one doesn't necessarily work for another and MS would be wise to remember that.

Trig · 20 Jun 2016 at 18:24

You want to do stuff while its updating, yeah, thats your own fault, granted it should work, but come on this is Windows, you should know better...

Rroff · 21 Jun 2016 at 16:12

Trig said:
You want to do stuff while its updating, yeah, thats your own fault, granted it should work, but come on this is Windows, you should know better...

I don't want it updating at all unless I've either manually launched it or maybe a critical update - booting up a system and it almost immediately jumping into a general roll up update which takes almost an hour while chewing CPU and disc IO for a large part of that is very bad design (there wasn't even any options to pause or cancel it short of doing a fair bit of task killing and disabling services).

Fortunately I was at my desk and had the tablet plugged into mains power - not what you want happening on a tablet if you are on battery either.

EDIT: It was still on the mobile internet connection as well but luckily only used 240MB by the look of it - could have been a very expensive 240MB if I'd been at the end of my allowance though.

nightmare99 · 21 Jun 2016 at 17:24

I'm sure you can tell it to not update on cellular.

Rroff · 21 Jun 2016 at 18:16

nightmare99 said:
I'm sure you can tell it to not update on cellular.

Unfortunately MS decided with 10 (probably to not make it easy for people to work around automatic updates) that you can only set connections that present themselves to the OS as wifi as metered - this adaptor shows to windows as a standard network connection and uses its own 3rd party software to manage mobile connectivity (which isn't an unusual story either) so while in Windows 8 I can set it to metered (which isn't needed as I can manage Windows update properly) in 10 I "can't" - think there are some registry tweaks that can trick it into working but I've not got around to looking into that option.

EDIT: Same thing if I tether from my phone (depending on which phone I'm using) as well - the device doesn't show up as something that allows setting it to metered in Windows 10.

marc2003 · 21 Jun 2016 at 18:35

Just disable windows updates completely and set yourself a calendar reminder to enable it once a month on patch tuesday or just after.

To disable updates, right click Start>Computer Management>Services and applications>Services>Windows Update>set the startup type to disabled and stop it if it's running.