Windows 10

marc2003 said:
Just disable windows updates completely and set yourself a calendar reminder to enable it once a month on patch tuesday or just after.

To disable updates, right click Start>Computer Management>Services and applications>Services>Windows Update>set the startup type to disabled and stop it if it's running.
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Its far from a perfect solution though and who knows how long til MS make that harder to do :|

I always run Windows update manually on a regular basis and/or have notifications for important updates I don't need to set a reminder, etc. i.e. if I'm done with a system on a Sunday night I'll manually set it going to do updates before going to bed and so on.
 
Rroff, do you never stop and think that maybe the reason why you get so annoyed about Windows is because you spend quite a lot of time searching for things that annoy you and then get overly wound up by them when you find them?

You go on about things being unfinished and breaking and how Windows 10 isn't as good as 7, yet not only do you run 10 on all your machines, you also run the Insider Builds which are unfinished and broken by definition!

I've used the analogy before, but it is still valid... Its like complaining your being **** on while standing under a sewage outlet.

Why don't you run 7 or 8.1 if these things are such an issue that hinder your use to the extent you make out? Try standing somewhere else?
 
One of Microsofts security updates broke our VOIP client from connecting at work (Very annoyingly after we'd JUST started building our images, and we'd JUST given out the first W10 staff machine to none I.T staff)

We've had to turn off Updates in Windows Services on the machines (Because firstly, there's no way of ignoring the updates, defer updates doesn't prevent security ones, and there's no way of turning updates off normally)
But no, there's not a problem with W10 updates.

Top kek.
 
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Skeeter said:
Rroff, do you never stop and think that maybe the reason why you get so annoyed about Windows is because you spend quite a lot of time searching for things that annoy you and then get overly wound up by them when you find them?

You go on about things being unfinished and breaking and how Windows 10 isn't as good as 7, yet not only do you run 10 on all your machines, you also run the Insider Builds which are unfinished and broken by definition!

I've used the analogy before, but it is still valid... Its like complaining your being **** on while standing under a sewage outlet.

Why don't you run 7 or 8.1 if these things are such an issue that hinder your use to the extent you make out? Try standing somewhere else?
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I don't go looking for issues - most of my posts have been reactionary to running into issues.

I don't run Windows 10 on all my machines either - the only actual in use system I have 10 on is my new tablet (which isn't on insider) - I have 10 setup for testing on my previous main PC (Core 2 Quad, GTX470), an old laptop I had lying about (single core atom) I shoved it on out of interest to see how it performed and a couple of VMs (on insider) on my main system so I can stay up to date on it as I do some support stuff on the side.

You are completely mistaking where I stand as I want to use 10 more widely as on paper it has many features that should be a good step forward from 7 but in reality the implementation of those features is very poor - you seem to be under some impression it is just me but if you look on the feedback hub under the upvoted stuff much of the stuff I'm complaining about is up in the top ones with 3000+ upvotes - infact complaints about the implementation of Windows update if you add up the upvotes from the 3-4 main feedback instances dwarf almost any other feedback.

All my main systems run Windows 7 or Windows 7 as their primary OS except my older tablet that is on 8 - there is no way Windows 10 is going anywhere near my gaming PC or main workstation type PC and in hindsight I wouldn't have bought a tablet with 10 on it either.
 
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Omg 3,000 upvotes! Wow, your issues must be right at the top of Microsofts agenda!!!

Oh no wait, they have 300m users to keep happy.

Weve had this conversation a number of times and its always been pointless. You don't understand the requirement for this type of update strategy on this sort of software platform, so you will never change your opinion on it.
 
Skeeter said:
Omg 3,000 upvotes! Wow, your issues must be right at the top of Microsofts agenda!!!

Oh no wait, they have 300m users to keep happy.

Weve had this conversation a number of times and its always been pointless. You don't understand the requirement for this type of update strategy on this sort of software platform, so you will never change your opinion on it.
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Um the top upvoted issues and feature requests are in the 3000-6000 range that is in the context of the feedback hub a significant number. (EDIT: Top upvoted feedback is 9123 the highest upvoted complaint about Windows update 6963 at 5th place and there are multiple entries around the top20 or so at 3000-3800).

There is absolutely no need for a forced update strategy - the OS will always need to be able to update from any intermediate state to the latest version - increasingly it is causing problems in the workplace as mentioned above so MS will have to deal with it eventually.
 
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I've not even made the point before you have misunderstood it.

Your flaw is thinking of Windows 10 as another version of Windows like all the versions before it. Until you realise that the Windows platform is now very different we will always just go round in circles.

When delivering an ongoing and incrementally updating platform you simply cannot leave the control of updates in the hands of the users, for your own sake and that of any 3rd parties who build upon your platform.
 
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Skeeter said:
I've not even made the point before you have misunderstood it.

Your flaw is thinking of Windows 10 as another version of Windows like all the versions before it. Until you realise that the Windows platform is now very different we will always just go round in circles.
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I understand that but it is a distinction that only exists in your and MS's mind to everyone else they still have to deal with the reality of it - again if you don't believe me go browse the feedback hub a bit :s
 
Rroff said:
I understand that but it is a distinction that only exists in your and MS's mind to everyone else they still have to deal with the reality of it - again if you don't believe me go browse the feedback hub a bit :s
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If its all in my mind, when will Windows 11 be released?

Your constant feedback hub reply is flawed too. Think about it, they haven't done anything about it after 18 months of Insider feedback. That means one of two things, either the volume of people complaining is insignificant so they aren't changing anything, or the volume is significant enough but its a feature they are not going to change. Either way, nothings changing, your wasting your time.
 
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I feel like this is the same spiel when Windows 8 was around.

"THE START MENU IS NEVER EVER EVER EVER COMING BACK"


"IT'S GOING TO BE LIKE APPLE, INCREMENTAL UPDATES YOU PAY FOR"

I remember when the 8.1 update 1 came out, and Microsoft showed off some new Windows update (Which became Windows 10). Good times.
 
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I finally decided to give this a go . . . I like it a lot overall and it isn't as different from Win7 as I feared. I actually like the new tiled start menu. I have a couple of annoyances though.

Settings/Control Panel needs to be unified, settings are all over the place.

The left navigation pane in file explorer is too clutered.

"My PC" should only list the disc drives like the old "My Computer". There's no need for the default windows folders, which could be seen in Quick Access anyway. "Quick Access" is alright but not as customisable as the old "Favourites" and I hate those ugly pinned icons too.

I upgraded to 10 from 7 and everything is working fine, but it doesn't seem like any device drivers were updated, still running the same versions as before. Is this normal?
 
If your unable to notice the difference between a change in UI and a fundamental shift from self contained releases to a long term incrementally updated software platform, then I'm wasting my breath.
 
Skeeter said:
Why would they not release the something new as an update into the 10 platform?
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Because bigger numbers and something entirely new tend to generate more hype - a major Windows 10 update wouldn't generate even a fraction of the buzz that "Windows 11" would do.
 
So your of the opinion there will definately be a Windows 11 then?

Regarding Windows 8, they could (and did) impliment a UI change within that version, they couldn't impliment a platform shift, that's why they moved to W10.
 
I have no idea where MS will go in the future in that regard - I certainly wouldn't rule it out - they've previously changed direction on stuff like that when it hasn't proved to be the success they were hoping for.
 
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