Windows 7 SP1 RTM

This SP1 pack updates IE8 to a newer version

Top one is before install,,,bottom one is after install
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jimbobaggies said:
Saw this link - http://www.windows7news.com/2011/01/16/installing-windows-7-sp1-rtm/
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Really hate things like that, as it's a load of crap. Whoever wrote that is essentially saying dont install it because you won't NOTICE it, but surely that is beside the point? The point is to have as many known security flaws plugged as possible and as many incompatibilities or stability issues fixed, whether you'll notice them or not.

Had someone on another forum saying they never ran any windows updates since windows 7 was released purely becuase "they didn't see the point, it ran fine" which to me is just ludicrous!
 
I think some sentiment is true, for instance, be careful where you acquire it from as there are a lot of unscrupulous people out there... I'll wait til the official release, then make my own slipstream as I am overdue a re-install.

Windows 7 Professional 6.1.7600: Installed - 25/10/2009
 
NathanE said:
You wha?!
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It was the same when SP1 was release for WS2008. It did nothing to a system that was kept up to date through WU. Why is this any different.

Also, the extra disk space that "appears" will only work if you have hibernation enabled. If you have hibernation disabled, it won't make any changes to disk space. SP1 clears out the hibernation disk cache before it installs. It will fill back up again after a few days.

iDroid84 said:
This is what I thought, I'm glad someone else posted it lol :rolleyes:
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:rolleyes:

As I thought:

The first and most important reason is that unless you’re running Windows Server, there’s nothing new in it. It is simply a roll-up of the patches and updates that have been issued for Windows 7 since its launch in October 2009. I can’t stress this enough, you really won’t notice the difference.
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From here:
http://www.windows7news.com/2011/01/16/installing-windows-7-sp1-rtm/#Scene_1

It won't benefit any system that is already up to date. The IE8 update posted earlier is available through WU. I'd only install this straight on to a fresh install so that I dont have to install all the updates seperately.
 
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Lucero said:
It was the same when SP1 was release for WS2008. It did nothing to a system that was kept up to date through WU. Why is this any different.
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That's because WU would install it anyway. A service pack contains lots of changes, and not always bug fixes.

SP1 clears out the hibernation disk cache before it installs. It will fill back up again after a few days.
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Hibernation doesn't maintain a "disk cache". It has a memory dump called hyperfil.sys. Which is, more or less, a straight copy of RAM from the point in time that hibernation occurred.

From here:
http://www.windows7news.com/2011/01/16/installing-windows-7-sp1-rtm/#Scene_1

It won't benefit any system that is already up to date. The IE8 update posted earlier is available through WU. I'd only install this straight on to a fresh install so that I dont have to install all the updates seperately.
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I'd not rely on some clearly wrong blog post. I'd rely on the fact that every Windows service pack over the past 20 years has contained more than just bug fixes that are already available. If that were the case they would be called "Rollup Pack" instead of "Service Pack". And the former is a terminology that Microsoft does use on occasion for other products. Within a year there will be products out there that *require* SP1 to even begin their install. Microsoft quite often do this with their products. But you will find third party products start doing it sooner or later too. This occurs because they start using new APIs that are often added during Service Packs.
 
I disagree. It was clearly documented in the RC1 whitepapers that that (RC1) and RTM would just be the updates already available to an upto date system and some virtualization additions / improvements of which, the 3 specific to windows 7 which were HDMI, Printing and 3rd party comm federation, were resolved through WU in June last year.
 
Lucero said:
I disagree. It was clearly documented in the RC1 whitepapers that that (RC1) and RTM would just be the updates already available to an upto date system and some virtualization additions / improvements of which, the 3 specific to windows 7 which were HDMI, Printing and 3rd party comm federation, were resolved through WU in June last year.
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Changes specific to Windows 7
Additional support for communication with third-party federation services
Additional support has been added to allow Windows 7 clients to effectively communicate with third-party identity federation services (those supporting the WS-Federation passive profile protocol). This change enhances platform interoperability, and improves the ability to communicate identity and authentication information between organizations.

Improved HDMI audio device performance
A small percentage of users have reported issues in which the connection between computers running Windows 7 and HDMI audio devices can be lost after system reboots. Updates have been incorporated into SP1 to ensure that connections between Windows 7 computers and HDMI audio devices are consistently maintained.

Corrected behavior when printing mixed-orientation XPS documents
Prior to the release of SP1, some customers have reported difficulty when printing mixed-orientation XPS documents (documents containing pages in both portrait and landscape orientation) using the XPS Viewer, resulting in all pages being printed entirely in either portrait or landscape mode. This issue has been addressed in SP1, allowing users to correctly print mixed-orientation documents using the XPS Viewer.

Changes common to both client and server platforms
Change to behavior of “Restore previous folders at logon” functionality
SP1 changes the behavior of the “Restore previous folders at logon” function available in the Folder Options Explorer dialog. Prior to SP1, previous folders would be restored in a cascaded position based on the location of the most recently active folder. That behavior changes in SP1 so that all folders are restored to their previous positions.

Enhanced support for additional identities in RRAS and IPsec
Support for additional identification types has been added to the Identification field in the IKEv2 authentication protocol. This allows for a variety of additional forms of identification (such as E-mail ID or Certificate Subject) to be used when performing authentication using the IKEv2 protocol.
Support for Advanced Vector Extensions (AVX)

There has always been a growing need for ever more computing power and as usage models change, processors instruction set architectures evolve to support these growing demands. Advanced Vector Extensions (AVX) is a 256 bit instruction set extension for processors. AVX is designed to allow for improved performance for applications that are floating point intensive. Support for AVX is a part of SP1 to allow applications to fully utilize the new instruction set and register extensions.

Conclusion
Service Pack 1 for Windows 7 and Windows Server 2008 R2 represents Microsoft’s continuing commitment to quality. While many of the updates contained in SP1 are available as individual downloads, the integration of these updates in SP1 enhances the ease of deployment for IT administrators. This functionality, coupled with advanced new virtualization features such as Dynamic Memory and RemoteFX, demonstrates how SP1 will provide the ongoing improvements that customers and organizations alike have grown to expect from Microsoft.
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Lucero said:
I disagree. It was clearly documented in the RC1 whitepapers that that (RC1) and RTM would just be the updates already available to an upto date system and some virtualization additions / improvements of which, the 3 specific to windows 7 which were HDMI, Printing and 3rd party comm federation, were resolved through WU in June last year.
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No, there's 65 pages of hotfixes here they will all be included in SP1, if you think we've had that many on Windows Update then you're mistaken.
 
iDroid84 said:
Hotfixes and Security Updates included in Windows 7 and Windows 2008 R2 Service Pack 1 Release Candidate.xls

http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/...ea-83fe-46e9-96d8-027ae59ddc11&displaylang=en
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Yep and from that document.

Windows 7 and Windows Server 2008 R2 Service Pack 1 includes all previously released updates for Windows 7 and Windows Server 2008 R2. Many of these updates are available to the public on the Microsoft Download Center and Windows Update, while others are only available to specific customers or partners. It is standard practice to include all of these updates in a Service Pack and as such they are included in Windows 7 and Windows Server 2008 R2 Service Pack 1.
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So people saying if you're up to date on Windows Update then you don't really need SP1 are just plain wrong.
 
Right, update on F-Secure 2011 and the SP1 RTM. Disabled F-Secure on the desktop PC and it installed perfectly. F-Secure is automatically re-enabled when it reboots and SP1 is installed successfully. A full scan reports nothing untoward, and malwarebytes reports it clean.

Very odd indeed.
 
mrbios said:
Really hate things like that, as it's a load of crap. Whoever wrote that is essentially saying dont install it because you won't NOTICE it, but surely that is beside the point? The point is to have as many known security flaws plugged as possible and as many incompatibilities or stability issues fixed, whether you'll notice them or not.
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I think the point he was making is that there's no hurry to install SP1 *before the official release*, as there's no immediate advantage either from a security or functionality viewpoint in doing so, assuming you're already running a fully patched and updated system via Windows Update. He wasn't saying "don't install SP1, ever", which is what some people seem to be suggesting.

He was also suggesting that some sources for the leaked RTM might not be entirely trustworthy, which seems like good advice to me.
 
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