Windows 8 Consumer Preview Thread

smithy83 said:
i have to say i love the metro ui on my phone, i hate in on the desktop

i don't understand why they have removed the start menu bar from the desktop everything takes to long to find its one big mess

will be sticking to windows 7 at least microsoft have said they will be supporting windows 7 till 2020 that should give them enough time to go back on this decision :P
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Or at least for affordable input devices to move away from the mouse. Touch screens. camera wizardry like kinnect. all that fancy 3d environment interaction :)
 
Completely agree, the metro UI for me just does not work on a desktop. I can see this being really good on mobile devices, I do like the idea but with a mouse it just does not work!
 
jakspyder said:
Or at least for affordable input devices to move away from the mouse. Touch screens. camera wizardry like kinnect. all that fancy 3d environment interaction :)
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none of which i find appealing for a desktop computer

voice commands only work 90% of the time and which my accent i somehow doubt its going to perform well

kinect like controls are just dumb like i said it takes to much time as is on the 360 i used my kinect for about a week then just dumped it back in its box

and touch screen no thank you i don't want to be touch my nice monitor

i think this is the first time i am hoping that windows 8 fails for microsoft
 
I'm really finding it difficult to be encouraged to stick with the metro layout. Then again I am the type of person who still dislikes the Office ribbon.!
I would want to try and stick with the UI as it is to see if I can find any advantages to it that I have as yet to see.
I could imagine using the UI, as it is, on my tablet but not on a desktop PC.
Unlike coming from Vista to Windows 7 I don't feel the same compelling reason to change to a UI that I find cumbersome and difficult to use.
I really don't want to admit how long it took me to find out how to power down the computer, without pressing the button on the PC's case..!
Time will tell but my first impressions of what I see with Windows 8 are not as positive as I had hoped for.
 
You remind me so much of the Windows XP crowd and those that just "hate" the Office Ribbon.
The Ribbon is the best thing MS did to office for generations - yet there are still those that "hate" it.
The Microsoft UI would not have got to this stage if it wasn't getting good feedback.
As I said in a post earlier, I think Metro as it is now will be a hard sell to many users in the corporate environment.

I will however come up with a far better/mature argument than it's "poo" - surprised you didn't come out with it being "gay" as well.
 
There is no denying that finding apps with the new Start screen is much quicker - when they're installed they get their own title. No more scrolling through a tiny window in the corner of your screen. Huge improvements have been made to file copying and task manager, storage has been made more secure through Storage Spaces, the OS is now bootable from a USB pendrive, preferences are stored online and migrate between computers (as well as documents through SkyDrive), etc.

I don't like many of the changes, at least not at the moment. But some of it will just take time to adapt to, while some will likely be addressed before release. However, I'm not as positive about the change as I was with the ribbon interface for Office, which I thought was a huge improvement over the previous interface. I'd like to see Microsoft add back the start button, as I don't see why it was removed - yes it now opens the start screen instead of the start menu but it was something obvious to click on. As it stands the area to click on is much smaller and needlessly so. And the charm bar is ridiculously fiddly to use on a multi-monitor system - that's a real disaster.

I'm really interested to see how much Windows 8 changes between now and release, as at the moment I'm concerned that a lot of people will be hostile to it. Given the amount of criticism directed towards Vista - an OS that made comparatively few changes, most of it was behind the scenes - it's going to be very interested to witness the reaction from the public. I liked Vista. I liked Win7. I liked the Office ribbon. I have reservations about Win8 but don't think it's anywhere near as bad as people make out.
 
The thing about most hardcore windows users is that they hate change and progression. Windows as we know if it being redefined and we just gotta roll with it. Otherwise we'd be on Win98 service pack 10
 
DOS was better tbh, especially if you setup that thing that recalled previous typed lines


Since Win8 is out soon and I have someone who needs to get windows in next couple months, can anyone speculate if they'll be a date where they can upgrade without cost between seven and eight. Or is this type of thing for new machines only
 
stoofa said:
You remind me so much of the Windows XP crowd and those that just "hate" the Office Ribbon.
The Ribbon is the best thing MS did to office for generations - yet there are still those that "hate" it.
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Wait, people actually like the ribbon? I haven't actually heard someone say anything positive about it before, beyond it simply being newer therefore better.

I guess it comes down to what you want from your computer. You either want it to be a tool or you want it to be an experience. A gadget.
 
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Wait, people actually like the ribbon? I haven't actually heard someone say anything positive about it before, beyond it simply being newer therefore better.

I guess it comes down to what you want from your computer. You either want it to be a tool or you want it to be an experience. A gadget.
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Huh? Loads of people like the Ribbon and say good things about it. I love the ribbon. It's been proven from tests that for first time users of Office, they are always more efficient with work using the Ribbon, and prefer the Ribbon over file menus. And the people who have already been using Office since before the Ribbon are always the ones that dislike it. Simply because, as always, they're scared of change. Even when it's clearly much better and has been proven. Just like with Metro compared to the useless cramped mess that was the Start menu.
 
It's not 'clearly much better', it's a matter of opinion. It may well be easier to pick up for beginners, but that doesn't mean it's better by any count.
 
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It's not 'clearly much better', it's a matter of opinion. It may well be easier to pick up for beginners, but that doesn't mean it's better by any count.
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Even though it is better, because as i pointed out it's not just easier to pick up, the beginners were also more efficient and produced better work when using the Ribbon. And new users are always the best to test these things with because they're not going to be bias or used to the previous design.
 
Has anyone here installed using the USB as the boot?
I assume I just use Rufus, with "Create a bootable disk" and explore to teh ISO I have downloaded, then on boot up use the USB stick, and install Win8 to the spare empty HD ill be using for it, then boot from the HD?...would all that work?

DO I run much risk trying it out and swapping from my Win7 SSD etc?
 
I'm really not feeling this and glad there are others who are the same. I don't see how forcing a mobile paradigm on full size computers is necessary, and to be honest I resent MS for trying to squeeze everyone in the same category.

The biggest loss for me is the start menu and the workflow that Windows has had up until now. The conventional Windows interface is flexible and easy to navigate. It allows programs and files to be easily launched, interacted with, moved about and closed. Whilst W8 has brought improvements to parts of this process, it also adds unnecessary tablet clutter and relegates some of the most important parts of the UI (e.g. the desktop) to afterthoughts.

I also don't think the Metro look works on the desktop. It looks great on tablets and phones, but we're used to transparency and drop shadows on the desktop and there's no need to lose them. In addition, it's also very inefficient, taking up large amounts of space that could be used for more features or functionality.

It's very frustrating for me, because I'm not a luddite - I love new technology and I'm an early adopter of most things. I just don't see W8 being a compelling purchase.

I guess I'm gonna have to keep at it.
 
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