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Having had a bit more time to think about the episode, the part I'm most disappointed about is the complete arc reversal of Jaime -

S1 Ep1 to S8 Ep4 - Jaime starts off as a complete git but slowly decides he wants to be better and, with help from Brienne and others slowly changes, regaining his honour by the end culminating in S8 Ep2 to 4.

S8 Ep5 - Nah, Brienne was a crap shag so I changed my mind and Cersi's the one for me.

Also, while I understand that he was captured because of his golden hand - WHY was he captured in the first place? He's just fought for the "good guys" at Winterfell and is a hero for doing so (as seen during the post battle party) so did we miss a bit of dialogue where Dani/Jon said "While you fight with us you are safe but, after we beat the night king, you'll be an enemy again if you head back to KL" because it's not in any episodes I've seen?
 
Washout said:
Let's be honest - if the series ended without the brothers having a face off there'd be a lot more complaints.
Not sure it was 'that' predictable. Predictable was the will they/won't they get the bells ringing. Tyrion got them ringing, good for him.

Less predictable was Dany going, **** it, I'm burning it all anyway. Granted less predictable because although she's been ruthless about burning her enemies (think back to the witch in season one), she's never harmed civilians.

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We've only seen the scorpions take out one Dragon cruising along in a straight line that didn't see them coming, maybe we're over estimating them a bit or underestimating Drogon who's had enough encounters to know how to avoid them now. Like flying below angles they can shoot and circling faster than they can (ross voice) PIVOT.
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Sorry, I went into that episode think Dany was going to go mental. And she did.
 
ianh said:
Having had a bit more time to think about the episode, the part I'm most disappointed about is the complete arc reversal of Jaime -

S1 Ep1 to S8 Ep4 - Jaime starts off as a complete git but slowly decides he wants to be better and, with help from Brienne and others slowly changes, regaining his honour by the end culminating in S8 Ep2 to 4.

S8 Ep5 - Nah, Brienne was a crap shag so I changed my mind and Cersi's the one for me.

Also, while I understand that he was captured because of his golden hand - WHY was he captured in the first place? He's just fought for the "good guys" at Winterfell and is a hero for doing so (as seen during the post battle party) so did we miss a bit of dialogue where Dani/Jon said "While you fight with us you are safe but, after we beat the night king, you'll be an enemy again if you head back to KL" because it's not in any episodes I've seen?
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They said they caught him trying to sneak past their lines into the city which would be a fair reason to imprison him. I'm not sure it's fair to say he's completely flipped character wise. He has changed.
Seems like he just wanted to be with his twin at the end going out together like they came into the world.

Martini1991 said:
Sorry, I went into that episode think Dany was going to go mental. And she did.
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Yeah, to be fair I was expecting her to go burn down the keep, regardless of the bells - I really didn't think she'd burn the whole place down!
 
Washout said:
They said they caught him trying to sneak past their lines into the city which would be a fair reason to imprison him. I'm not sure it's fair to say he's completely flipped character wise. He has changed.
Seems like he just wanted to be with his twin at the end going out together like they came into the world.
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How's it any different from Arya/Hound?
 
Why did Tyrion grass his best mate up Why did Euron want to fight Jamie also they have made Jon useless this season might as well call it the Arya show rubbish they have ruined it.
 
Martini1991 said:
How's it any different from Arya/Hound?
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They left before the armies. Jaime went a quite a bit after

banbom44 said:
Why did Tyrion grass his best mate up Why did Euron want to fight Jamie also they have made Jon useless this season might as well call it the Arya show rubbish they have ruined it.
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Tyrion was acting as her hand, as much as it hurt him to do so. To not do so would be a betrayal.

You’re asking the wrong question about euron! Pretty obvious why he’d want to fight him. How he swam to the exact spot Jaime was at would be a better question.
 
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Martini1991 said:
It was the same day/night. The journey is massive too so the time they left is pretty irrelevant.
He was literally minutes behind them in the city despite capture too.

It's just poor writing.
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Yes and no, Jaime left after word of the Dragonstone stuff. You’ve gotta assume that was a few days after they left the north from white harbour
 
G-MAN2004 said:
But then he goes and releases his brother right after...
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I never said he was a good hand ;)

But one was to protect her, the other to potentially save the city. I don’t think Tyrion’s choices this episode are at all out of character.

Edit: both, he thought, were in her best interests
 
Washout said:
Yes and no, Jaime left after word of the Dragonstone stuff. You’ve gotta assume that was a few days after they left the north from white harbour
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But he was captured the day before and was in the tent at night. Arya and the Hound literally entered the city the next day right before the attack started. In fact they entered the city after he did, after he spent time captured in between. IT's absurd, nothing makes sense in the show. Two people travelling on horse barely beat an entire army marching on foot to a city. Arya and the hound should have had a chance to get to the city, sneak around and carry out and attack before any army got even close.
 
drunkenmaster said:
But he was captured the day before and was in the tent at night. Arya and the Hound literally entered the city the next day right before the attack started. In fact they entered the city after he did, after he spent time captured in between. IT's absurd, nothing makes sense in the show. Two people travelling on horse barely beat an entire army marching on foot to a city. Arya and the hound should have had a chance to get to the city, sneak around and carry out and attack before any army got even close.
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Ah maybe, tbh can’t remember if it showed them going in through the big gates or not :)

Could be one of the issues this season, they build these super big impressive wall sets. Then use them as much as possible without thinking every detail through.

Like sticking the unsullied outside the pit line of winter fell. Wouldn’t surprise me if they realised after it was built that you can’t put 5k men inside the gap they left!

Two years to do that stuff so not much of an excuse.
 
This season has been poor and it doesn’t seem like it’ll recover now. I’ve never read the books so I don’t know where the tv passed them but it feels to me like the last few seasons have been sub-par (IMO).

The only person I have feelings towards is Sandor and he sacrificed himself to kill his brother (who looked nothing like the actor who played The Mountain) whom we saw before his fight with The Viper. I understand he went through some transformation thanks to Qyburn but when’s his helmet came off he looked more like a bloated and taller Varys than The Mountain.

I’m disappointed Cersei didn’t die directly by someone else but her death with Jamie was quite fitting. The rest I didn’t care for very much, Dany is taking after her father which is fine but the final episode is fairly obvious now.
 
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