Winter Is Here - A Dance With Dragons

Finally managed to finish this 5th book, bought it on my kindle and have to say thoroughly enjoyable compared to the last one which literally did my head in.

Personally shocked that Jon is dead or is he??...id like to see arya, her sister and tyrion make some sort of major comeback with Dany and destroy Cersei and her lot.
 
paulc25 said:
There is a sample chapter from the next book in the series - The Winds of Winter on GRR Martin's webpage here: http://www.georgerrmartin.com/if-sample.html

Spoilers obviously. :)

Its a Theon chapter and quite interesting
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I really hope Mr Martin doesn't take another 6 years to finish winds of winter, i want it now :(

Great sample. At least we have the television series to fill part of the void now too :)
 
Picked up a hardback copy for £12.50 from Waterstones yesterday :D. Nowhere near it yet, still on Storm of Swords 2 (Blood and Gold)

A question though -
Does Arya ever get Needle back?
 
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I do like that sample chapter, freys dying is always good news, even if just remarked in passing.

Stanis may have a saviour in Howland Reed, even if not for Stannis but for the turning of the fat man, and the unification of the North.
Oh to see a flayed man Flayed and burned, there could prove some very just endings to certain peoples existances.
 
Just a favour.

Can we not discuss spoilers of the upcoming book please?

I prefer to read it all in one go and avoid sample chapters.

Thanks!
 
As a favour, I've read the chapter for you.
By upcoming book, I assume you mean the one he'll publish assuming he doesn't die first.

All of what I said was speculation, and not mentioned at all in the chapter, Reed isn't mentioned, flayed men being flayed or burned or any of that.
Freys dying is always good.
A dragon burning the twins to the ground would be most suitable.
 
Hikari Kisugi said:
As a favour, I've read the chapter for you.
By upcoming book, I assume you mean the one he'll publish assuming he doesn't die first.

All of what I said was speculation, and not mentioned at all in the chapter, Reed isn't mentioned, flayed men being flayed or burned or any of that.
Freys dying is always good.
A dragon burning the twins to the ground would be most suitable.
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Ah no worries :)

I just saw you had said you read it and so saw sone stuff and looked away with a Girly squeal :p

My bad! :)
 
I think Varys is more for good than evil. He sent Gendry north with Yoren, he sent Selmy to Dani having been the person that had him removed from the White Cloaks, Varys told Aeris to not let Tywin into Kinds Landing, but Pycelle was listened to instead, which meant the Targaryens all died (well, all present, supposedly), it was he whom switches Aegon with a peasant baby... OK there's arguments against him too, like what he does to Kevan Lannister, but it makes sense if you are doing it for the good of the realm and don't want Lannisters in power.
 
Following on from the TV discussion;

Squark said:
I can't think of the event that you're alluding to. I do wish they'd shown the relationship that develops between Sandor and Sansa in the books (though relationship is a misleading word to describe it).
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The event I meant was that in the books it was Sansa who informed Cersei of Ned's plans to leave the city. In the TV show it is never declared how Cersei knew and was prepared for the stand off (all though it could be assumed that Littlefinger told her).
 
Hostile17 said:
The event I meant was that in the books it was Sansa who informed Cersei of Ned's plans to leave the city. In the TV show it is never declared how Cersei knew and was prepared for the stand off (all though it could be assumed that Littlefinger told her).
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Oh right, I wondered if that was it, you had me thinking it was something from the second book I'd missed.

I thought it was shown in the series :confused: Maybe I imagined it, I was reading the book at the same time
 
I have a question about book 2

Who buried the dragonglass at the Fist of the First Men? Jon says that it can't have been there long.
Was it Benjen? Or is it something we just wont know, or at least wont until a later book?
 
Squark said:
I have a question about book 2

Who buried the dragonglass at the Fist of the First Men? Jon says that it can't have been there long.
Was it Benjen? Or is it something we just wont know, or at least wont until a later book?
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I don't think we've found out yet though I've assumed it to be either Benjen or Coldhands (Are they one and the same?)
 
I wonder if anything more is said about the magic horn that The King Beyond The Wall was supposed to have? Can't remember what happened to it after Stannis's forces ambushed the wildings.
There's only a couple of lines about Sam finding a broken horn with the dragonglass bits. I'd always assumed it was the real one, but I don't think anything more was ever said of it.
 
Tribune said:
I wonder if anything more is said about the magic horn that The King Beyond The Wall was supposed to have? Can't remember what happened to it after Stannis's forces ambushed the wildings.
There's only a couple of lines about Sam finding a broken horn with the dragonglass bits. I'd always assumed it was the real one, but I don't think anything more was ever said of it.
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Yeah I think Sam has the real one, so many questions still about the Fist, I wonder if they'll ever get answered.
 
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