Winter Transfer Window 22/23

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Saw that Cantwell has gone to Rangers. What happened to him, thought he was going to be a proper player when Norwich were in the prem.
 
Seems that UEFA has had enough of Chelsea's shenanigans with contract lengths so they are trying to get a 5 year max limit on them going forward.
 
The thing I don't really understand is why is it that big an issue, all it is doing is deferring payments which eventually catchup with you, if you pay less today then that's offset by paying more in future. Like in 5 years time they are still paying the fees for these players so they'll have less additional money to spend under FFP presumably compared to had they paid it all off by then.

Then again I suppose Barca is a good example of the "manana, manana" approach to finances, probably not best to incentivise short-termism.
 
The thing I don't really understand is why is it that big an issue, all it is doing is deferring payments which eventually catchup with you, if you pay less today then that's offset by paying more in future. Like in 5 years time they are still paying the fees for these players so they'll have less additional money to spend under FFP presumably compared to had they paid it all off by then.

Then again I suppose Barca is a good example of the "manana, manana" approach to finances, probably not best to incentivise short-termism.
I agree that I don't get why anybody is fussed about these long contracts but transfer fees aren't fully paid off, not if the player is still at the club and this circles back to why I don't think Chelsea are doing anything wrong.

What a lot of people don't understand is that buying a player doesn't equal losing money. They're just exchanging cash for an asset and the loss or expense is the drop in value of that asset. With footballers it's easy to calculate the drop in value as once their contract expires they're free to leave, so while Chelsea are absolutely giving out these extended contracts to reduce their short term expenses, they're also protecting the value of their asset by tying them down to a longer deal.
 
Then again I suppose Barca is a good example of the "manana, manana" approach to finances, probably not best to incentivise short-termism.

I think this is it. If you can kick the can down the road for 8 years thats a long time for a complete **** storm to brew. It also encourages inflation in the market.

A better way to look at it is perhaps "what is the benefit of letting clubs amortise over 8+ years"
 
I think this is it. If you can kick the can down the road for 8 years thats a long time for a complete **** storm to brew. It also encourages inflation in the market.

A better way to look at it is perhaps "what is the benefit of letting clubs amortise over 8+ years"
It's not a case of benefits, it's a standard accounting practice. Chelsea have bought an asset that has a value and that asset only becomes worthless, from an accounting point of view, when he is out of contract. As I said above, yes it reduces Chelsea's expenses in the short term but it also protects the value of their asset.

I don't understand the Barca comparison either. The length of the contract only effects Chelsea's paper profit/loss, it has no bearing on the actual cash profits/losses a club makes and or debt. Whether you give a player a 4 year or 8 year contract, he's still cost the same fee. The only concern people should have and it has no link to the contract length is how Chelsea are paying for these transfers. This was ultimately the issue at Barca as they were signing all these players with cash they didn't have. At their peak they owed around £300m in future installments on historic transfers (Man Utd's latest accounts show they owe a similar amount to this now) - if you want to protect football clubs, put restrictions on the amount of debt they can rack up on signings rather than the contract length.
 

West Ham star ‘gives his word’ to Arsenal as Gunners ‘completely close’ record-breaking deal​


Nacional insist that ‘he has given his word to Arsenal’ over a summer transfer with Arteta ‘asking’ the club to push the boat out for Rice in the summer.


It is claimed that the transfer is ‘completely closed’ and £80m-rated Rice will become ‘the most expensive deal’ in Arsenal’s history.
 

West Ham star ‘gives his word’ to Arsenal as Gunners ‘completely close’ record-breaking deal​

I do rate him but how much of an upgrade on Partey is he if at all? Seems like a lot of money we could use to strengthen a couple of other positions.
 
I do rate him but how much of an upgrade on Partey is he if at all? Seems like a lot of money we could use to strengthen a couple of other positions.
Well im guessing he’d play alongside partey in the big games to bolster the defence? Also like for like cover for partey/rotation

Xhaka will be 31 in the summer so again building for the future

Where else would you rather we spent the money for me cm/dm is where we need quality on the bench aswell as on the pitch. If partey gets injured we havw no one to cover his play. Elneny is decent but he isnt rice is he
 
If 80m is correct, it's a very very good deal considering the balance between his age and experience.
He was never going to go for over 100m with a year left on his contract come the summer.

I seem to be his biggest fan boi around here.

Juggernaut as a 6.

Improving every season and starting to move up the pitch more.

Has good technical ability.

Jealous to say the least.
 
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