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Huge fan of American Football no doubt, probably watches all the games...
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Huge fan of American Football no doubt, probably watches all the games...
What a bizarre line of attack.
You appear have given up trying to spread the lie that MLK was kneeling in the same fashion as BLM supporters and that there were 'loads' of examples of this before Kaepernick did it
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Because.... spoiler alert.... that was a load of unadulterated nonsence.
And now the line of attack seems to be to go after my knowledge of American football.
Now I can state, straight of that bat, that I k ow very little about American footbal and further more that I don't have much of an inclination for this this change.
But what I do have is the ability to read news articles, including articles published well before Kaepernick started kneeling, where his ongoing career prospects were in question.
You seen this is were your risible lack of critical thinking has exposed itself.
You see a photo of MLK and his entourage kneeling circa 1965, whilst on a protest and accept the narrative that they were doing so in a similar fashion to the current trend.
Even though the source you citited confirmed they were kneeling in prayer, as Christians had done so for millennia before him when they prayed to show their subservience before the God they believe exists.
You just accepted the retconned narrative, presumably because it agrees with your prejudices and they aserted that there were 'loads' of examples of this being done before Kaepernick. If this were the cases there would be sources before Kaepernick kneeled that would have contextualised people doing it in the same fashion.
I don't think the 'kick it out campaign' had much reach outside of the UK in places like India now did it? Because its not like we have not already discussed the possible origin of a lot of this online abuse now.
And of course kneeling has been such a success know has it not?
Racists crimes up in the US (although when we dig into whose responsible we find a lot of instances of blacks targeting Asians).
Black deaths up in the the US, crime up, racial tensions up etc etc
This would make no sense if the people behind it actually wanted to improve race relations and the prospects of black people in places like the US and UK.
It does however make sense if you consider the people behind it may have an ulterior motive because they are Marxists and want to destabilise nations as Marxists have sought to do, sometimes successfully before, by fermenting internal strive in a country
Bless you sweet naive summer child.....
It's not as if we have not had examples, in recent months, of 'trained marxists' leaving the BLM movement/ grift to retire to their millions of dollars worth of property investments
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Yes siree you totes have to be an American footbal fan to make a comment in the playing of a 'racial' national Anthem at a sports game.
Racially segregating facilities and activities is surely the progressive way forward!
Theres various articles saying he did it with protestors mate and they dont mention preying. The thing is, I am a very busy person who really doesn't have the time dedicated to argue with people who clearly have an agenda. Your posting history shows you the type of person you are. Every other post you make is you insulting someone or being aggressive in your response. You absolutely slate people like Diane Abbott yet happy to defend Max Mosley...really odd to be honest.
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Ha just imagine a white national anthem. Here's an idea. Let's not divide things on racial lines. Period.
But no it continues on and we are told this is progressive.
But no it continues on and we are told this is progressive.
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doesn't change why Kaepernick knelt. he knelt in protest against the thousands of black men killed by white police officers. your response above is whataboutism
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Woke is a term with now literally no meaning, it is a complete non-issue as a result, to 99% of voters. It is today's "political correctness gone mad" which applies to whatever you personally disagree with.
It's strange that the free speech brigade were not along to condemn Rashford's mural being vandalised, why not?
It's strange that the free speech brigade were not along to condemn Rashford's mural being vandalised, why not?
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Wouldn't make sense if you read into why there's a 'black national anthem' in the first place.
See white history month, straight pride etc.
Coming to an emoji near you next year, the pregnant man emoji. The ones with the crown are also non-binary
https://blog.emojipedia.org/new-emojis-in-2021-2022/
They need a large facepalm one as well then
So are they Marxists trying to bring down the country or are try just capitalists willing to make a buck off a movement??
Seems hard to be both
Wonder why he never kneeled for the blacks killing blacks which is far more worse?
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Well moaned about the flag and the national anthem.
He moaned about black and white police killing blacks.
He accusing team owners of colluding(not true)
Kaepernick has voiced disapproval with Donald Trump and Hillary Clinton.
The fact Kaepernick grew up in a life of privilege — and the fact his mother(who is white) disapproved of his protests from the beginning
But he missed out 2 very important things that did not suit his racist agenda.
The principal reason blacks are killed, by the police, in the US at disproportionate rates is simple....
Namely that blacks, particularly you black men, commit a staggeringly disproportionate amount of violent crime on a per capita basis.
If people want to make it a racial grievance competition then blacks bear the biggest racial burden in the US.
You want to be upset amount the amount of black men who die in police involved deaths?
OK then let's also talk about blacks killing whites at twelve times the per capita rate of the reverse.
As of July of 2016 African Americans were the largest racial minority, amounting to an estimated 12.7%
In the same year the FBI figures for homicides nationwide shows that, where the race of the offender was known, this was the break down for homicides involving blacks and whites as either victims or perpetrators.
White victim total = 3,499
Pepetrator White = 2,854
Perpetrator Black = 533
Black or African American victim total = 2,870
Perpetrator White =243
Pepetrator Black = 2,570
So what can we glean from these figures?
For whites just over 81.5% of murders were committed by other whites
and just over 15. 2‰ were committed by blacks
For Black's the figures were just over 8.46%
murded by whites
and over 89.5‰ for deaths at the hands of other blacks.
And let's look at the absolute figures..
Black's killed 533 whites when they made up 12.7‰ of the population
And whites killed 243 blacks when they made up 76.9‰ of the population
So not only did whites kill less blacks then the other way around in overall numbers they did so whilst having over six times as many people in the country!
So you could express the racial disparity in interracial homicides in the USA, on a per capita basis, between blacks and whites as being in the region of over a factor of twelve in favour of the blacks much more frequently being the perpetrators in interacial murders between the two groups (just over six times as many whites as blacks in total and in absolute figures blacks kill over twice as many whites as vice versa)
In the same year the FBI figures for homicides nationwide shows that, where the race of the offender was known, this was the break down for homicides involving blacks and whites as either victims or perpetrators.
White victim total = 3,499
Pepetrator White = 2,854
Perpetrator Black = 533
Black or African American victim total = 2,870
Perpetrator White =243
Pepetrator Black = 2,570
So what can we glean from these figures?
For whites just over 81.5% of murders were committed by other whites
and just over 15. 2‰ were committed by blacks
For Black's the figures were just over 8.46%
murded by whites
and over 89.5‰ for deaths at the hands of other blacks.
And let's look at the absolute figures..
Black's killed 533 whites when they made up 12.7‰ of the population
And whites killed 243 blacks when they made up 76.9‰ of the population
So not only did whites kill less blacks then the other way around in overall numbers they did so whilst having over six times as many people in the country!
So you could express the racial disparity in interracial homicides in the USA, on a per capita basis, between blacks and whites as being in the region of over a factor of twelve in favour of the blacks much more frequently being the perpetrators in interacial murders between the two groups (just over six times as many whites as blacks in total and in absolute figures blacks kill over twice as many whites as vice versa)
Let's talk about blacks commitning violent crime against Asians at over 250 times the rate of the reverse.
In 2018, there were 182,230 reports of Asians being victims of violent crime. The race of the offenders against Asians is as follows: 24% White and 28% Black. With that said, the U.S. population is 62% Caucasian, so you would think Caucasians would be committing more violent crimes against Asians. The black population is 12%, Hispanics are 17%, and Asians are 6% of the U.S. population. Now, there are Asians who wrong African-Americans. According to the Justice Department Chart, Page 13, Asians violently offending African-Americans is less than 0.1% of the time. Caucasian-Americans violently attack African-Americans 11% of the time.
What about Asian-on-Asian crime? Well, according to the chart because we deal with facts and statistics, rather than feelings, 76% of violent crimes against Asians were perpetrated by non-Asians. This makes Asians the most victimized race in America. Violent crimes committed by non-blacks toward African-Americans was 30%. Which means Black-on-Black violent crime is 70%. At the same time, 38% of all crimes against Caucasian-Americans was committed by non-Caucasians. Crimes against Latinos by non-Latinos were 55%.
What about Asian-on-Asian crime? Well, according to the chart because we deal with facts and statistics, rather than feelings, 76% of violent crimes against Asians were perpetrated by non-Asians. This makes Asians the most victimized race in America. Violent crimes committed by non-blacks toward African-Americans was 30%. Which means Black-on-Black violent crime is 70%. At the same time, 38% of all crimes against Caucasian-Americans was committed by non-Caucasians. Crimes against Latinos by non-Latinos were 55%.
Suddenly I sense an unwillingness to play this stupid game......
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I'm not talking about the tweets for the black England players after the final. I'm talking about it going on all the time. You are right though, the Kick It Out didn't reach places like India, the England players taking a knee did though, it was world news. So in fact it was great at getting their anti racism message out there all over the world.
How do you know if its been a great success or not? What do your black and brown friends say about it? Mine think it was great it was getting racism being discussed so much. So it was in fact a success. I get some people don't want it being discussed, well you can't please everyone can you.
I don't care really what happens in the US. Its fun to discuss but their history with race and continued problems dealing with it isn't something I lose sleep over. Its a mess of a country because they've never dealt with their past, so it continues to effect their future and will continue to do so. However considering the last 18 months we've had with covid, lockdowns etc and the politics there with a ridiculous presidential election, trying to put rises in crime and hate on people kneeling is frankly laughable and you are a better poster than that, it is such a weak argument.
So that just shows they aren't in fact Marxists at all then. They are just grifters like so many Americans and like so many idiot American's tend to do, they fell for it and gave them money. I'm not sure how that helps your point and is in anyway related to footballers not being Marxist. Maybe this sweet summer sun has warmed your naïve brain.
***Pack it in with the personal jabs***
I don't care that you can show me an article after Kaepernick kneeled that claims this was in the same fashion MLK and his entourage.
Because this is after the fact retconning of events.
Show me evidence before Kaepernick kneeled that shows that MLK and entourage were kneeling in the same fashion as Kaepernick.
I suspect you can't because your own source stated MLK and entourage were kneeling in prayer.
And now you claim to be 'too busy in the most transparent of attempts to deflect from the utter incompetence of you prior claims.
And also you show yourself be digengenoious with your Mosley comment.
People can read what I said here...
https://www.overclockers.co.uk/forums/posts/34818306/
I pointed out that a UK acourt had determined that the nazi orgy tabloid headline was libellous.
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The idea that people who follow or promote Marxists and socialist systems have ended up financially enriching themselves and their families is an alien concept to you?
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