Wolfenstien 2 Vulkan benchmarks:

w1ze1 · 29 Oct 2017 at 19:48

I did edit above, system RAM is far slower than VRAM and only there in case you run out like a Swap/Page file, you do not want this to happen.

LtMatt · 29 Oct 2017 at 19:51

w1ze1 said:
I did edit above, system RAM is far slower than VRAM and only there in case you run out like a Swap/Page file, you do not want this to happen.

HBCC does not have the same performance penalty, thankfully.

w1ze1 · 29 Oct 2017 at 19:53

Well system RAM is still system RAM and VRAM though meant to do a different job is still a lot faster.

LtMatt · 29 Oct 2017 at 19:54

w1ze1 said:
Well system RAM is still system RAM and VRAM though meant to do a different job is still a lot faster.

Try out HBCC yourself and you'll see.

You might want to watch the video i added to my earlier post.

nashathedog · 29 Oct 2017 at 19:59

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Lokken86 said:
I thought you already had a Vega or did you just sell the Fury? I have a 470 in my miner rig and iv tested in games its actually a pretty good little card. It will run everything at 1080p just fine but make sure its running at the rated clock speeds by adjusting power usage and or fan speed because they can be buggers for downclocking.

First Battlefront was really cool after all the patches and new maps were finally out but it should have been like that from the start. I expect this one to be great from there start. One can hope.

Hi, The Vega was faulty so it went back and I bought a 1080 which I just sold after replacing it with a 4gb 470 Red Devil off the MM, I wanted the money ready for for the AIB Vega's Hoping to catch a Tri-x that'll fit in my Corsair Air 240 cube case, There's no problem with card length or how fat it is it's the height, If none of the AIB's fit I'll just go with the Vega reference air 64. There's also the price of a better psu to consider though.

I'm definitely expecting Battlefront 2 to be one of my preferred games in 2018, Battlefront 2, Metro Exodus and State of Decay 2 FTW

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nashathedog · 29 Oct 2017 at 20:05

AMDMatt said:
I guess someone will ask what High Bandwidth Cache is > https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xd5pMzqf8cI

Good little introduction video, Cheer's for the link I most of missed it in my subs list, I really need to streamline my subscriptions as I get too much flannel making me miss things.

w1ze1 · 29 Oct 2017 at 20:19

AMDMatt said:
Try out HBCC yourself and you'll see.

You might want to watch the video i added to my earlier post.

I just bought this card and that is me till Volta Titan X or whatever, Titan XM would be worth nothing by then.

GoogalyMoogaly · 29 Oct 2017 at 20:42

AMDMatt said:
Most i can apply is 24GB of HBCC giving me effective video memory capacity of 30GB.

I guess someone will ask what High Bandwidth Cache is > https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xd5pMzqf8cI

24GB + 8GB = 32GB

Also if there's no impact using system RAM over HBM2, why bother with 8GB? Could they not have put 2GB or 4GB on the card and made it cheaper (and a bit more power efficient) and just made the rest up from system RAM? (Like low end Nvidia (and maybe ATI) cards of old)?

LtMatt · 29 Oct 2017 at 20:42

GoogalyMoogaly said:
24GB + 8GB = 32GB

Lol, oops.

GoogalyMoogaly · 29 Oct 2017 at 20:47

AMDMatt said:
Lol, oops.

Don't worry, adding really small lists of really small numbers can be tricky...

Muhammad.Abdelhameed · 29 Oct 2017 at 20:49

ComputerBase retested their scenarios with Async for AMD, very limited gains, especially during taxing scenes.
https://www.computerbase.de/2017-10/wolfenstein-2-benchmark-async-compute/

We are still waiting for game ready drivers from NVIDIA as well, those should help add some nice gains.

GoogalyMoogaly · 29 Oct 2017 at 20:56

Muhammad.Abdelhameed said:
ComputerBase retested their scenarios with Async for AMD, very limited gains, especially during taxing scenes.
https://www.computerbase.de/2017-10/wolfenstein-2-benchmark-async-compute/

We are still waiting for game ready drivers from NVIDIA as well, those should help add some nice gains.

That's speculation based on the Forza 7 improvements, it might not be the case with all games. Some may see little or no improvement. Maybe it's why Nvidia were late getting drivers out because they're struggling to optimise with Vulkan.

EDIT: ^^ that's also speculation!

shankly1985 · 29 Oct 2017 at 22:04

thebennyboy said:
The only thing i can find regarding it is in event viewer. All it says is "Display driver amdkmdap stopped responding and has successfully recovered."

Are you overclocking? Under voltage? This error is the biggest issue of a GPU that has failed its overclock.

Twyst · 29 Oct 2017 at 22:09

Does anyone know how to frame cap wolf using Vega? ? My screen (g-sync) is at 120Hz and FTRC doesn't seem to have any effect.
I'm currently using Enchanced Sync, but still see tearing in the cut-scenes as they go waaaay over the 120Hz of the panel.

But because Enhanced Sync is enabled can I enable Vsync with almost no input lag or will it still be there?

Freddie1980 · 29 Oct 2017 at 23:24

AMDMatt said:
System memory, right? I enabled 11.7GB of HBCC (system memeory to act as a frame buffer). I have 32GB of system memory which can be used to supplement Vega's 8GB of HBM.

Before HBCC didn't cards try and use system ram anyway for extra frame buffer? How does HBCC improve this process?

shankly1985 · 30 Oct 2017 at 00:17

w1ze1 said:
This game is nothing great, the first two were better looking and less launch issues.

Not all users on steam reporting issues are Nvidia users.

If you go looking you will find issues in any single gaming title

Freddie1980 said:
Before HBCC didn't cards try and use system ram anyway for extra frame buffer? How does HBCC improve this process?

Nope, before HBCC if a GPU ran out of Vram it would restore to the available shared memory on the Hard drive. This is why you got the massive slow down..

HBCC works very well because you partition part of available ram and it's the controller on the GPU that helps speed up. While system ram is slower than Vram it's still much much faster than system storage including SSDs

thebennyboy · 30 Oct 2017 at 00:18

shankly1985 said:
Are you overclocking? Under voltage? This error is the biggest issue of a GPU that has failed its overclock.

Everything at stock, only started happening on 17.10.2. No issues with Rainbow Six Siege on 17.10.1. Wolfenstein doesn't play nicely whatever driver i use.

shankly1985 · 30 Oct 2017 at 00:45

VEGA 56 vs GTX 1080 Lol No competition...

AthlonXP1800 said:
Surprised to see 1080 Ti still hold performance king in all resolutions.

How really very embarrassed to see what Rapid Packed Math can do to games, absolutely useless and massive waste of time. What a failure.

Look like big poor Vega for a AMD sponsored Vulkan title RTG used most advanced and very expensive newer utter useless technologies like HBM2, HBCC, Rapid Packed Math, Deferred Renderer, Primitive Binning etc that would still not able to outperformed big Pascal in 2017 and upcoming little Volta and big Volta in 2018.

lool

shankly1985 · 30 Oct 2017 at 00:48

AthlonXP1800 said:
Surprised to see 1080 Ti still hold performance king in all resolutions.

How really very embarrassed to see what Rapid Packed Math can do to games, absolutely useless and massive waste of time. What a failure.

Look like big poor Vega for a AMD sponsored Vulkan title RTG used most advanced and very expensive newer utter useless technologies like HBM2, HBCC, Rapid Packed Math, Deferred Renderer, Primitive Binning etc that would still not able to outperformed big Pascal in 2017 and upcoming little Volta and big Volta in 2018.

thebennyboy said:
Everything at stock, only started happening on 17.10.2. No issues with Rainbow Six Siege on 17.10.1. Wolfenstein doesn't play nicely whatever driver i use.

Honestly not sure then mate

I always known driver crashes related to bad overclocking. Something else is going on here! Have you tried changing some settings in Wattman? Maybe try adding %20 on the power level or 50% maybe the GPU needs more power from the PSU?

Muhammad.Abdelhameed · 30 Oct 2017 at 01:20

shankly1985 said:
VEGA 56 vs GTX 1080 Lol No competition...

Ultra settings are not the highest visual settings, there is another tier above it. Also these numbers are apparently bogus, no other site has the difference so wide. Joker is at it again. Also he didn't do the numbers himself, he just sent it to another tech savy guys (in PresentMon form), so .. !