Woman injured as feminists and transgender groups fight at Speakers’ Corner

Something weird is going on. I do not recall reading or hearing a collective of words sequenced in this way 10 years ago. I seem to be caught in some bizarre rapid social pseudo-evolution. I feel quite inadequate!
 
Dowie you seem to spend a lot of time on the topic of left / right / trans / political / etc, you studying it or something?

As for this incident, I simply don't care. Things get heated at speaker's corner, this has been known forever. Going there to speak is doing so in the knowledge that it could go wrong.

nope, just think the identity politics thing that has emerged again recently is bizarre, I don't care if someone is left or right or whatever

they were there to meet up before heading off to a secret meeting venue after their original venue received threats from the trans group

One person threw a punch, ergo all the left are dangerous savages.

except no one has said that, in particular it is the regressive/alt left types being criticised here the victim is also 'left'... still nice straw man
 
Something weird is going on. I do not recall reading or hearing a collective of words sequenced in this way 10 years ago. I seem to be caught in some bizarre rapid social pseudo-evolution. I feel quite inadequate!

Society is becoming incredibly warped both from the "normal" that most people have grown up with and don't even think about (which to some degree isn't necessarily a bad thing) and some over compensation against areas of society where people have been discriminated or oppressed, etc. resulting in a distortion of the reality. There seems to be a general lack of ability to see the bigger picture and a certain amount of irony in that some sections of society are becoming the very thing they think they are pushing back against.
 
nope, just think the identity politics thing that has emerged again recently is bizarre, I don't care if someone is left or right or whatever

they were there to meet up before heading off to a secret meeting venue after their original venue received threats from the trans group



except no one has said that, in particular it is the regressive/alt left types being criticised here the victim is also 'left'... still nice straw man

In which case, if you are posting about people hitting other people they essentially agree with over some minor perceived slight, I look forward to your threads about every high street pub in the land on every Friday, or alternatively you have an agenda?

Hmmm which seems more plausible/likely to happen?
 
In which case, if you are posting about people hitting other people they essentially agree with over some minor perceived slight, I look forward to your threads about every high street pub in the land on every Friday, or alternatively you have an agenda?

Hmmm which seems more plausible/likely to happen?

You're not really making much sense(unsurprisingly), this has nothing to do with Friday night drunken violence. You're welcome to go make your own thread about that, it is nothing new - this one concerns the re-emergence of identity politics, political violence and the use of no platforming tactics against a group that aren't Nazis but simply have a different opinion.

Not really interested if you want to carry on with spurious comparisons as from previous experience you're a time waster.
 
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Society is becoming incredibly warped both from the "normal" that most people have grown up with and don't even think about (which to some degree isn't necessarily a bad thing) and some over compensation against areas of society where people have been discriminated or oppressed, etc. resulting in a distortion of the reality. There seems to be a general lack of ability to see the bigger picture and a certain amount of irony in that some sections of society are becoming the very thing they think they are pushing back against.

Also the amount of effort to write a story about it in search of ad views is massively lower than it ever has been. If you're a media org and there's money to be made out of selling ads on articles aimed at people that see Rod Liddle as some sort of beacon of common sense, then there's no reason not to do that. A lot of words get written about minor things that would have no impact on anybody, and would pass by unnoticed unless they'd read a tabloid article about it, but there's ad views in getting people worked up about this sort of stuff.

I guess it's a bit like thinking there's a lot more things to die of these days, or different mental illnesses to be diagnosed with, when 100 years ago the same conditions were around but people would just have died of "being old" or "were mad".
 
You're not really making much sense(unsurprisingly), this has nothing to do with Friday night drunken violence. You're welcome to go make your own thread about that, it is nothing new - this one concerns the re-emergence of identity politics, political violence and the use of no platform img tactics against a group that aren't Nazis but simply have a different opinion.

Not really interested if you want to carry on with spurious comparisons as from previous experience you're a time waster.
Like the series of posts about residents of grenfell's culpability in the fire which essentially appears to have spread via cladding, your agenda is pretty clear again!

Someone got punched, the sky is caving in!

If we started a thread about every time some moron broke the law and hit someone it would be a fulltime job
 
well you've got a rather dodgy memory and seem to interpret things as you like, but as I said I'm not interested - you've been a time waster in the past, I don't really want to engage with you further on this thread, if you're not interested in a thread about someone getting hit then don't post it it.. ditto to stuff like the Clarkson thread about someone getting hit - it is a bit more than that
 
it's hilarious she says that a trans person hasnt lived as a woman because they weren't molested as a child
 
also can you really claim to be a civil rights group when you have "exclusionary" right there in your name?
 
well you've got a rather dodgy memory and seem to interpret things as you like, but as I said I'm not interested - you've been a time waster in the past, I don't really want to engage with you further on this thread
I don't much want to read your posts, but there you go and here they are, during the time this story 'broke' no doubt 10s to 100s of similar punches occur, I guess if they don't fit the narrative they are irrelevant 'drunken brawls'.
 
also is anyone buying she was a "beautiful" girl?

not sure you can tell for sure what they used to be like in that regard once they are in their 60s to be fair, maybe she was speaking metaphorically like in a 'beautiful on the inside' kinda way...
 
I've never understood how those who are apparently meant to be fighting "the good fight" are so narrow minded to other points of views. They end up tarnishing their entire message.
 
not sure you can tell for sure what they used to be like in that regard once they are in their 60s to be fair

true. nice to know that "mens rights activist" are the lowest of the low even though they aren't even involved
 
I've never understood how those who are apparently meant to be fighting "the good fight" are so narrow minded to other points of views. They end up tarnishing their entire message.


because when you start identifying everyone by group or gender and us vs them you have to have people to exclude and vilify.

you cannot have such an organisation without an enemy
 
There is a reason why the most oppressive states with the highest body counts are from the left.
 
because when you start identifying everyone by group or gender and us vs them you have to have people to exclude and vilify.

you cannot have such an organisation without an enemy

AFAIK they're not attempting to vilify trans people they just don't accept them as 'women' ergo they want to exclude them from their meetings in the same way they exclude men. Likewise there are arguments for excluding them from women's shelters or from say rape support groups aimed at women where the presence of a 'man' (in their eyes) whether that is a regular male or a trans woman/'man' isn't helpful to the rest of the people present.
 
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