Woolwich serious incident
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In the eyes of a radicalized extremist of course a U.K soldier is a legitimate target irrespective of whether his on duty or not.
(Why would they follow rules of engagement when they see both us and the USA pick and choose when we abide by them
) The 10 year old boy that was stabbed by a drunken British soldier however is the definition of an illegitimate target and you don't need to be a radicalized extremists to understand that.
You see it's the many injustices and double standards like this which fuels the hate towards the west, not to mention it's one of the best recruitment tools for the terrorists to manipulate and radicalize normal decent Muslims!
Until we clean up our own act and stop having double standards horrific attacks like we saw the other day will sadly continue!
Violence begets violence
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In the eyes of a radicalized extremist of course a U.K soldier is a legitimate target irrespective of whether his on duty or not.
(Why would they follow rules of engagement when they see both us and the USA pick and choose when we abide by them
The 10 year old boy that was stabbed by a drunken British soldier however is the definition of an illegitimate target and you don't need to be a radicalized extremists to understand that.
You see it's the many injustices and double standards like this which fuels the hate towards the west, not to mention it's one of the best recruitment tools for the terrorists to radicalize normal decent Muslims!
Until we clean up our own act and stop having double standards horrific attacks like we saw the other day will sadly continue!
Violence begets violence
The soldier that committed that awful act has been discharged dishonourably and jailed, has he not?
Not for nearly long enough, mind. Nor did he kill the boy.
The problem with trying to see it from their point of view for who is a combatant or not is that it never ends. There are a number of countries in the world where a 10yr old boy would be considered a soldier and have killed more than any of our (number out of a hat) 30 yr old vets in the forces.
You, me, a drummer, your pet dog or anyone regardless of age, faith or anything else will be considered a combatant by someone, somewhere. It's disgusting but it's there and really doesn't deserve debate.
You, me, a drummer, your pet dog or anyone regardless of age, faith or anything else will be considered a combatant by someone, somewhere. It's disgusting but it's there and really doesn't deserve debate.
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Just like the war on Iraq was illegal and far more disgraceful, yet tens of thousands of innocent people were killed and the country illegally occupied despite the United Nations condemning it. Then to top things of the Country is still left as a **** hole whilst "The West" fleece it of it's resources.
What these people have done is react to a far much worse crime happening to "their lands and their people". If there was nothing to provocate them in the first place then they would probably be selling rap albums right now or joined a Nasheed group.
It's sad that innocent people die. I wish all these World leaders were thrown in a cage match and settle their scores without the public being targeted and used as their instruments.
It's quite clear is sympathetic to their cause.
Weren't tens of thousands of people being killed at the hands of the tyrant that was in control though. Not that it makes it better but.
They seem to be quite confused though to what their people and lands are - they refer to both as home.
We only really have one extremist sympathiser's conjecture on whether they thought they were soldiers or not.
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Let me get this right, you think in war you can pick and choose which country it takes place in as long as it isnt your own?
Its ludicrous that you think that one country can say hey ok where going to enter war with so and so country but please can we just do it in your country, please dont attack ours back?
What planet are you living on.
The middle eastern countries have always been ***holes precisely because they prefer (inherently corrupt) religious forms of governance. That's not our problem to solve.
It's exactly the same in Africa, tribal politics leading to massive corruption and backwards economies.
They can try Western style Democracy any time they want, it works in every country apparently.
They might even like to try Christianity, no matter how bat**** insane you are, there is nothing in the New Testament to justify hacking kids to death in the street.
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Completely missed the point with that one I'm afraid.Let me get this right, you think in war you can pick and choose which country it takes place in as long as it isnt your own?
Its ludicrous that you think that one country can say hey ok where going to enter war with so and so country but please can we just do it in your country, please dont attack ours back?
What planet are you living on.
So just give them an arab task force partially funded by us and them.They have enough money and buy off russia so why can they not have force strong enough to oust saddam without a single christian putting foot in Iraq?They can do the ground work and we could do the air power.Then we leave them to sort out the mess which they asked us to do.Instead we have to go over there and park the bus and make it worse.For oil or what i dont know but it does not take a genius to work out a better system.
Now we have hate and egg on our face and millions of muslims colonizing europe.The jobseekers jihad is truly more powerful than the gun.They just have not quite caught on yet otherwise they would be coming in the millions per month.And the best bit is there is no way in hell a liberal EU will reverse the muslim population of europe.
I only want one child myself.I think it would be better considering the worlds resources are going fast and ignorant family's are having up to 5-7 children per family when they live in filth and ignorance.I do not really want to have to out breed them and would not ever make a child suffer or less off to populate an enemy.Yet if we do not partake we will eventually be wiped out through immigration and time.Its not easy to stomach but it is the truth and i would fear for the future of my children if i was a parent in the UK right now.Especially London as i would be scared to let my family roam the streets with some of the migrants who lurk around in the alleys.
At least northern Ireland is free from child breeding Jihad.They could try to come here too so we need to put a cap on children per family soon as a safeguard for the northern european identity.It is evil and unfair that our own goverment will allow a migrant family to come in and raise seven kids on benefits and not integrate while the native family has the usual one or two loving children and get bullied for being the white minority.
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It was good to see on the news the different heads of different religions standing together to condemn what happened.
What we need now is for ALL the media to get behind a fix it campaign to try and unite us all against these extremists and out them all.
Lets give muslim leaders more of a voice to help push the peacefulness of their faith.
Something good should come out of all this. If it doesn't then again the nutters win
What we need now is for ALL the media to get behind a fix it campaign to try and unite us all against these extremists and out them all.
Lets give muslim leaders more of a voice to help push the peacefulness of their faith.
Something good should come out of all this. If it doesn't then again the nutters win
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Excusing murderers is not OK, but treating our troops as heroes for doing the exact same thing (state sanction) is just as bad.
Don't hold your breath
I wish I'd stopped reading there. It's all you need to say.
You disgust me.
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Explain, if your reffereing to the US being solely behind the drones i think you will find the British ioerate drones too. In fact drones are operated from right here in the UK attacking afghans.
Don't hold your breath
Your probably right but is there something WE could do to keep it in the news.
We as in the public not OCuk