Woolwich serious incident

Tummy said:
No, no it is not dribble.

Read up on the policies of UKIP and you will see that they are nothing more than closet racists.
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I dont agree with that at all, what many people are blind to is that mass immigration and failure to successfully integrate immigrants into the native society actually breeds racism. Human kind is a very young species, racism is inevitable at this stage, it can be kept in check but radical changes to the demographics will cause racism to flare up.
Ukip policies towards immigration are much more balanced and fair, they will reduce levels of resentment towards non ethnic native people and make integration easier, as well as reduce strain to the infrastructure.
 
Gilly said:
I must be the only one that thinks getting armed response onsite in 20 mins in central (?) London isn't a bad score then?
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No, you're not the only one that thinks that.

D13 said:
I dont agree with that at all, what many people are blind to is that mass immigration and failure to successfully integrate immigrants into the native society actually breeds racism. Human kind is a very young species, racism is inevitable at this stage, it can be kept in check but radical changes to the demographics will cause racism to flare up.
Ukip policies towards immigration are much more balanced and fair, they will reduce levels of resentment towards non ethnic native people and make integration easier, as well as reduce strain to the infrastructure.
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Lol.
 
Gilly said:
I must be the only one that thinks getting armed response onsite in 20 mins in central (?) London isn't a bad score then?
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I think people don't realise they need to be briefed, and kitted up all the while they have to get there, all in 20 mins. Most people can't even get dressed and brush their teeth in that time. It's not really central london either.
 
Gilly said:
I must be the only one that thinks getting armed response onsite in 20 mins in central (?) London isn't a bad score then?
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It's London I suppose so you could assume that there may be more ARU than in other cities.

Or, It's London so it's a ballache to get through.
 
krooton said:
He didn't specifically state white British.

White in general was 60% in 2011, and 71% in 2001.

So at a rate of 10% per decade, it's still more than "a few years" before white becomes the minority.
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One thing I've always wondered about this.

Why would it matter?. (not saying you think it's a problem, just an open question).

Isn't it obvious that say in 500 years, the populations of the world will have mixed - cultures will have mixed & so will racial groups (genetically).

It's inevitable & the natural progression of our species, why fight the coming tide of change & revert to isolationism & xenophobia?.

Personally, I don't give a **** what the average shade of skin pigment of the UK will be in 50 years anymore than I care about what the average hair style will be.

It really doesn't matter.
 
Gilly said:
I must be the only one that thinks getting armed response onsite in 20 mins in central (?) London isn't a bad score then?
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Well I was under the impression that tasers were used for this sort of thing, although I suppose with a handgun in the nutter's possession they had to play it safe..
 
krooton said:
He didn't specifically state white British.

White in general was 60% in 2011, and 71% in 2001.

So at a rate of 10% per decade, it's still more than "a few years" before white becomes the minority.
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Okay so with white foreigners we are at 60% now. In 10 years, even accounting for none British whites, whites will be a minority in London. I think his premise is valid, 10 years is within all our lifetimes. 10 might be more than a few years but it's close.

Chances are it won't be "whites" in a minority, it won't be many years later that foriegners in general will make up a bigger percetage of London's populations than native people.
 
D13 said:
I dont agree with that at all, what many people are blind to is that mass immigration and failure to successfully integrate immigrants into the native society actually breeds racism. Human kind is a very young species, racism is inevitable at this stage, it can be kept in check but radical changes to the demographics will cause racism to flare up.
Ukip policies towards immigration are much more balanced and fair, they will reduce levels of resentment towards non ethnic native people and make integration easier, as well as reduce strain to the infrastructure.
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I disagree entirely. UKIP is positioned to 'deal with' the influx of 'foreigners and immigrants'.

And that's the reasonable bit of what they say!
 
avec said:
How was it a soldier on soldier thing?

An off duty soldier near his home is brutally murdered in cold blood by two civilians.

In what way is this soldier on soldier?
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The exact same reason when "soldiers" in the UK (RAF Waddington) pilot unmanned drones over Afganistan/Pakistan and brutally murder in cold blood suspected opposing fighters regardless of if in or out of combat situations.

Not saying either are right, but justification are made by both sides.
 
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