Woolwich serious incident

[dowie]

Err...they were the recognised ruling party of the country....

err what? LOL

Recognised by whom exactly... I don't recall many Taliban embassies even in Islamic states. As for 'ruling party' you make it sound like they were elected. Afghanistan was mostly (and parts still are) under occupation by the Taliban - they weren't elected, they imposed their harsh laws on the population and when they refused to hand over bin laden/close the training camps the US/UK backed their opposition and turned some Taliban leaders against the rest and briefly occupied the country too... Though at least we've since put into place something resembling a Government.

 

[joelk2]

Religion is not a sentient being (I have a feeling you'll need to google that).

No personal attacks - Gilly

If I go and dole out a punishment beating on some random person in the name of joelk2 from OcUK forums, do you accept responsibility for my actions and allow people to blame you for what I did?

i never said he accepts it, but still why are all these people blowing themselves up and killing people using "the religion" or "being" as an excuse. too many to be coincident imo

 

[spoffle]

Actually smoking weed.Yes

But how does that weed become smoked. It has to break many laws before it gets to the end user. What do these drug dealers do with their money. Where do the big profits from the guys at the top go towards.

When a dealer gets paid for this weed does he inform HMRC of his earnings and pay tax?

Tell me more about how this is any different to the hundreds of thousands of people across the UK that get paid cash in hand for perfectly legitimate jobs, but don't tell HMRC about their earnings.

 

[Robbo]

Get off the peasant wagon.

 

[Efour]

in I:read a rumour one of the guys was from romford in Essex anyone back that up.?
These guys are 2nd Gen Somalia? One of them had a pretty strong London accent I thought.
Any copy cat nutters out there yet?

 

[Shayper]

Agreed.

Get off the peasant wagon.



...and yet legalising it is a bad idea

Having said that, make a new thread for that please, let's get this one back on topic.

I'm inclined to disagree with you, but as you say that's a discussion for a different thread

Same argument could be said for Lets make speeding legal then and tax that.

Well no, not really. But as above, that's a discussion for a different thread.

 

[d_brennen]

Bring back cheets64. This thread would have been deleted in about 5 posts

 

[Neodite]

Really? REALLY?

Are you kidding me? I must have posted something completely different to what I can read here. You assume that because I am in disagreement with some of the laws that makes me a druggie?

I can only assume that you are a homophobe for the way you have responded to what I wrote. IT'S THE ONLY THING I CAN DRAW FROM YOUR POST.

Derp.

You said smoking weed is not a big deal? Yet it is still breaking the law.... So I can only assume by saying it is ok means you too smoke it?

Anyway this is wayyyyy of topic, feel free to send me a trust message if you wish to carry on with the convo.

 

[Freakbro]

Then the dealers would sell it cheaper and not pay any tax so back to square one.

Illegal cigarettes and booze are available from dealers, I don't see it stopping all legitimate sales.

You are ignoring the convenience legitimate outlets give over having to organise some dodgy deal, and don't underestimate how lazy pot smokers are

 

[deanolfc]

How's it gone from religion nutters to drug dealing. Morning

 

[Gilly]

How many further attacks has this spawned? I heard of two arrests last night. Has it stopped there?

 

[mattyg]

Tell me more about how this is any different to the hundreds of thousands of people across the UK that get paid cash in hand for perfectly legitimate jobs, but don't tell HMRC about their earnings.

Because working cash in hand is NOT illegal. (not declaring the income is)
Because dealing drugs IS illegal. How can you not see that. wow

 

[Shayper]

You said smoking weed is not a big deal? Yet it is still breaking the law.... So I can only assume by saying it is ok means you too smoke it?

Anyway this is wayyyyy of topic, feel free to send me a trust message if you wish to carry on with the convo.

I'm pretty much entirely sure that I didn't in fact say that. And please don't assume, as the old adage goes it only makes an ass out of u and me

Illegal cigarettes and booze are available from dealers, I don't see it stopping all legitimate sales.

You are ignoring the convenience legitimate outlets give over having to organise some dodgy deal, and don't underestimate how lazy pot smokers are

 

[bitslice]

What, the extremists? Just like the extremist Christians that believe the same? Just like people who don't follow any religion who believe the same?

No, of course not the extremists. I've already said I'm not talking about this event.

Does nothing about fundamentalist Islamic culture suggest to you that it puts women in an inferior position?

 

[Threepwood]

Tell me more about how anecdotes prove your point.

Shame how Richard Branson never made it big after smoking dope isn't it?

 

[spoffle]

Definitive.

Dealing drugs is illegal-definitive

Go and tell that to your local pharmacy.

thanks, maybe i'll look it up. idiot. i know its not a being but he is obviously referring to the religion (or are you too stupid to see that)

One of is definitely too stupid to comprehend things properly, it's definitely not me.

i never said he accepts it, but still why are all these people blowing themselves up and killing people using "the religion" or "being" as an excuse. too many to be coincident imo

Because they're crazy. Why does have to be more than that? Do you not feel satisfied until you can blame an ideology for the actions that people chose to make? Maybe it's a coping mechanism some people have because they have a hard time accepting and coming to terms with the fact that people can and do do such things because they want to.

 

[Efour]

*Edit - Reread your post. yes they are using it as an excuse

Being a Muslim is a way of life a code to living a good productive, pious life. Christianity and jewdism are cake walks compared to the average Muslim routinehmm what am I replying to its edited

 

[mattyg]

Back on topic


RIP Soldier

 

[Jason2]

We've seen the ones who killed the ones with vision
Cold-blooded murder right before your eyes
Today they hold the power and the money and the guns
It's getting hard to listen to their lies.


And I've just got to wonder what my Daddy would've done
If he'd seen the way they turned his dream around
I've got to go by what he told me, try to tell the truth
And stand your ground
DON'T LET THE *******S GET YOU DOWN!!!

 

[fadetoblack]

Unfortunately this is a sign of the times, Britain is no longer a green and pleasant land and something needs to be done. However, EDL type football hooligans aren't the answer, something needs to be done from the educated people that supposedly run this country.