Woolwich serious incident

MANFACE · 23 May 2013 at 09:53

KoubaDZ said:
you have the audacity to call them Muslims? Simply because they have Pakistani names?

Yup.

Kouba · 23 May 2013 at 09:53

steve55 said:

You do realise that anybody could have made that account in a bid to draw more negativity towards Muslims? Surely you are smarter than that Steve? C'mon Steve...

Shayper · 23 May 2013 at 09:53

bitslice said:
I never pretended they were a majority, just that that they existed (the same point spoffle made, that they imported this culture from a backward country)

It is this minor group that the community could be doing something more to integrate.

Instead you go off on a rant about something else? This is why I suggest you don't actually read what is written, you just look at the name tag.

I must have misunderstood you then, in that case I apologise.

Please don't insinuate I have some sort of personal crusade against you, I really don't have the time or the effort to want to do that. Hell, sports_brah insulted me earlier in the thread and i don't carry any grudge. I was attempting to answer your question as I interpreted it. I obviously made a misinterpretation.

shadow_boxer · 23 May 2013 at 09:53

spoffle said:
Interestingly, this sort of attitude is actually what indicates a lack of being able to exercise critical thinking.

+1

Jason2 · 23 May 2013 at 09:53

Gilly said:
You really wouldn't have liked it.

The one that sticks out stark as the day I read it is a wheelchair-bound individual actually making the statement "if it isn't white it isn't right".

I took great pleasure in banning him, and to be fair he'd had it coming a long time.

You seem to ban anyone with an opinion though.

steve55 · 23 May 2013 at 09:54

KoubaDZ said:
These people dealt with alcohol, drugs and rape... three things that seriously go against the religion itself yet you have the audacity to call them Muslims? Simply because they have Pakistani names?

Well i wonder what race their victims are...

spoffle · 23 May 2013 at 09:54

bitslice said:
I never pretended they were a majority, just that that they existed (the same point spoffle made, that they imported this culture from a backward country)

It is this minor group that the community could be doing something more to integrate.

Instead you go off on a rant about something else? This is why I suggest you don't actually read what is written, you just look at the name tag.

I get the feeling that amidst the heated discussion, you're both taking eachother out of context, because the subtext of what you're both saying seems to be fairly similar.

arc@css said:

Islamistan was a close one, it very nearly was.

Gilly said:
You really wouldn't have liked it.

The one that sticks out stark as the day I read it is a wheelchair-bound individual actually making the statement "if it isn't white it isn't right".

I took great pleasure in banning him, and to be fair he'd had it coming a long time.

Ooh ooh, was it Cheets64?

Threepwood · 23 May 2013 at 09:54

Shayper said:
Oh dear, I'm glad I wasn't around in the darker days then

I guess some continual perma perma perma bannage and the change of ownership helped, anyway I'm not here to bring up the past, but credit where credit is due.

Back on topic, where do we go from here? There is obviously a lot of hatred from both 'sides'. It's easier to do horrible things to people when they have done horrible things to them.

Does who did what first really matter? Is there no way out of 'an eye for an eye'? Both sides have been taking eyes for so long, and while I shudder to think who has taken more eyes... there must be some way of stopping all this. Peacefully.

Gilly · 23 May 2013 at 09:54

Jason2 said:
You seem to ban anyone with an opinion though.

Yes, that's exactly what I do.

It's nothing to do with trolling, breaking rules, personal attacks or anything like that; and that's not why people are thanking the team I am a part of for keeping this discussion going as it is.

No thanks to you, I would add.

Shayper · 23 May 2013 at 09:55

Gilly said:
You really wouldn't have liked it.

The one that sticks out stark as the day I read it is a wheelchair-bound individual actually making the statement "if it isn't white it isn't right".

I took great pleasure in banning him, and to be fair he'd had it coming a long time.

steve55 said:

Mind actually contributing to the discussion rather than posting pointless pictures?

Xordium · 23 May 2013 at 09:55

Jason2 said:
You seem to ban anyone with an opinion though.

He hasn't banned me yet and I am as about opinionated as they come.

Freakbro · 23 May 2013 at 09:56

Jason2 said:
You seem to ban anyone with an opinion though.

That makes no sense (like most of your posts) since everyone on this board has an opinion and there are what, 11 thousand members?

Gilly · 23 May 2013 at 09:56

Xordium said:
He hasn't banned me yet and I am as about opinionated as they come.

As am I, which really does make his statement as redundant as they come

shadow_boxer · 23 May 2013 at 09:57

MANFACE said:
Seems like people are venting their anger. Attacking mosques.

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/u...ee-and-gillingham-mosque-attacks-8628382.html

Pathetic thugs judt like those scum the EDL.

fadetoblack · 23 May 2013 at 09:57

Shayper said:
Mind actually contributing to the discussion rather than posting pointless pictures?

I don't think the photo is pointless?

Shows the stupid support the murders have

Shayper · 23 May 2013 at 09:57

MANFACE said:
Yup.

Then I can't take any further post from you in this thread seriously. What a ridiculous thing to say...

Jason2 said:
You seem to ban anyone with an opinion though.

Well, he is the mighty Gillbot. ALL HAIL THE MIGHTY GILLBOT.

spoffle said:
I get the feeling that amidst the heated discussion, you're both taking eachother out of context, because the subtext of what you're both saying seems to be fairly similar.

This seems to be the case

Islamistan was a close one, it very nearly was.

Ooh ooh, was it Cheets64?

No, he wasn't wheelchair bound unless he claimed to be so for benefit fraud. Wouldn't have put it past him to be honest.

Scougar · 23 May 2013 at 09:57

Have to admit I felt pretty angry about this, this morning. Having mixed emotions I must admit.

What I'm feeling at the moment is why anyone would choose to stay in this country, benefit from it, be supported by it, and then actively set out to attack it? Why should be put up with that crap, and why should we have them here. On the flip side, I'm feeling, that we should make more of an effort to making these people feel more a part of our society, so that this doesn't happen.

Perhaps we should be vetting asylum seekers more? (I know and am friendly with a fair few people who have sought asylum, and my parents have pretty much adopted an Eritrean family (good friends)). I am not against asylum seekers.

Honestly don't really know what to be feeling at the moment, it's just a rather messed up situation.

bitslice · 23 May 2013 at 09:57

Gilly said:
The one that sticks out stark as the day I read it is a wheelchair-bound individual actually making the statement "if it isn't white it isn't right".

I took great pleasure in banning him, and to be fair he'd had it coming a long time.

He should have known that OcUK is a Hovis only forum :mad:

steve55 · 23 May 2013 at 09:58

KoubaDZ said:
You do realise that anybody could have made that account in a bid to draw more negativity towards Muslims? Surely you are smarter than that Steve? C'mon Steve...

I doubt there could be anymore negativity at this moment

dowie · 23 May 2013 at 09:58

Freakbro said:
I think you need to learn a bit more history. I very carefully didn't say they were elected, and they don't have to be to be recognised as the 'ruling party'.

Recognised by whom you say? Well, diplomatic recognition was only given by 3 countries, but interaction with them by the wider community was normal. There was a time before the name Taliban was synonymous with Terrorist.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/west_asia/37021.stm

The Americans here, when they invited Taliban officials to the US to sign a gas pipeline deal across Afghanistan.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Taliban

Sounds like the ruling party to me...

Recognised by 3 countries lol

Regardless of others wanting to talk to them I don't see an issue with referring to their rule as an occupation - they weren't in power for long, they took power by force and they imposed their will on the population.