Woolwich serious incident

If you put a cherry on top of a turd, it's still a turd. :p
You can't polish a turd!

Wait you can.

It's hardly the most searching of questions. You do realise that the first five books of the Bible, the ones with all the questionable stuff about killing sorceresses etc, are the Torah (Jewish Holy Book) right?

As I said, dialing it down for Jason.

But yes, I am aware of the Tanakh and its relation to the new Testament.
 
Why is it different

Because he was off duty and in a non-serving capacity, not threatening the people who killed him. Therefore, he was a non-combatant at the time they killed him

No it doesnt. He was a serving member of the opposing Army.

No it doesn’t, not even remotely comparable. I’m neither a soldier or a fighter of any sort nor aligned to any fighting force. As opposed to the people involved in the incident where one was a soldier and the others self-proclaimed members of the opposing fighters/soldiers.

But you are a Muslim and therefore aligned to those two. Therefore, if you are allowed to attribute illegal killings by a few soldiers in Afghanistan onto someone who it is statistically likely did not do such an action then I would be equally able to do the same to you. So can I come around and give you a slap or would that be stupid? Or do you only follow through the logic when it suits your purpose which is why people like you are part of the proble,m.

You're comparing a civilian to a serving member of the Army that is currently/have been at war against opposing fighters.

You are comparing a person who is in a non-combatant role minding their business to someone who is in an active combatant role performing illegal actions against their rules of engagement.

Not justifying anything, just pointing out the double standards. It's heroic and brave our soldiers kill opposing members of the opposite side regardless of if in non combatative situations yet it's somehow evil when the tables are reversed. My personal opinion is both are just as evil.

Yes you are justifying it and can't see the difference which is why I say you and people like you are part of the problem. You seemingly can't tell the difference which either makes you a) not that clever or the more likely b) an apologist for barbarity.

Guessing you are an ex-military man? Maybe if you spent less time justifying wars on foreign lands we wouldn’t be in this situation. Maybe if people like you challenged orders instead of doing as told we wouldn’t have this problem.

You are guessing. I would suspect you would know it's hardly a secret. As someone who grew up in those foreign lands - well bordering them - I think people like you should have a serious think about what they hell you are going on about, get educated about the issues and stop justifying barbarity. For the record I did challenge the decisions, I did challenge illegal actions both by our troops and the US troops and I pressured for policy change to prevent future occurrences. Maybe you should look at my sig it may give you a clue when you are accusing me .. but I guess you can't read it ...

So what exactly have you done to change the situation bar justify the actions of murderers?
 
All Muslims want to turn Britain into an Islamic country; and that's the truth.

Where's your proof?

Any sane Muslim would not want to live in a country under religious rule, hell, no sane religious person would want to.

State and law should always be secular to allow people freedom of beliefs.

Additionally, I know my fair share of Muslims, and not one of them has any interest in the UK adopting Sharia law or becoming an Islamic country.
 
All Muslims want to turn Britain into an Islamic country; and that's the truth.

Take any devote Muslims, and press him on this issue and he would agree, he'll deny it at first but he'll admit it in the end. (A lot of them don't even need that much pressing!)

This is scary indeed and needs to be stamped out

Is it now? I must have missed my muslim friends beating me around the head with the Qu'ran and force feeding me Halal.


Please don't stick your head in the sand, I've been heavy involved in the Muslims community at one time (was Married to one) and i have extensive experiance on Muslims attitudes
 
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We have sharia law in the UK already!

We do?

Take any devote Muslims, and press him on this issue and he would agree, he'll deny it at first but he'll admit it in the end. (A lot of them don't even need that much pressing!)

This is scary indeed and needs to be stamped out

By 'devout' (or devote as you put it) do you mean extremist?

I know of devout Muslims that do not smoke, do not drink, follow their scriptures, pray when the time demands... they would defend the country before changing it to an Islamic state.
 
Take any devote Muslims, and press him on this issue and he would agree, he'll deny it at first but he'll admit it in the end. (A lot of them don't even need that much pressing!)

This is scary indeed and needs to be stamped out

That's strange, no muslim I know wants to?

Oh right, you are just making things up.
 
I think everyone should step back from the keyboard for a few minutes and enjoy this:

"I do wonder how it felt for the Woolwich attackers, whose ideology predicates upon the total suppression of women... to be shot by a woman"
 
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