World Cup Bets

no problem lads

Hi again,

Can I pick your brains a little about Betfair if possible, went on last night to have a look properly at the setup and layout (never bothered joining as it was late and still unsure anyway)

I did a bit of a mock up of the bets I would be doing and I chose the website view option of "Back only" which means none of this "Lay" stuff.

So anyway, what confused me is when I picked Fabiano for 12/1 or whatever the equivalent is on the betfair format odds. It then has an up and down arrow next to it that allowed me to increase and also lower the odds ??? :confused:

At this point I was like Huh !?! thinking what is going on here, the whole point of odds is that they are set, is it not.

Also there didn't seem to be an Each way box that you tick on the slip for doing the Top scorers each way, so I assume betfair wants you to set this up as a 1-4 place bet on it's own.

I know you warned us and said it was confusing for newcomers :D ... but I was not expecting to be able to select a bet and then change the odds up or down, that just threw me ... so can you explain what that part is all about ?

Thanks
 
Hi again,

Can I pick your brains a little about Betfair if possible, went on last night to have a look properly at the setup and layout (never bothered joining as it was late and still unsure anyway)

I did a bit of a mock up of the bets I would be doing and I chose the website view option of "Back only" which means none of this "Lay" stuff.

So anyway, what confused me is when I picked Fabiano for 12/1 or whatever the equivalent is on the betfair format odds. It then has an up and down arrow next to it that allowed me to increase and also lower the odds ??? :confused:

At this point I was like Huh !?! thinking what is going on here, the whole point of odds is that they are set, is it not.

Also there didn't seem to be an Each way box that you tick on the slip for doing the Top scorers each way, so I assume betfair wants you to set this up as a 1-4 place bet on it's own.

I know you warned us and said it was confusing for newcomers :D ... but I was not expecting to be able to select a bet and then change the odds up or down, that just threw me ... so can you explain what that part is all about ?

Thanks

like i said before its very confusing for newcomers.

dont change the odds.

whatever odds are stated just go with them.

if you change them there is a chance your bet wont work.

its a lot to get your head around so im not even going to bother to explain, but if you change the odds, you have to hope that someone also lays those odds too and if they dont your bet is void.

seriously mate just go with william hill for now, betfair may cause you more hassle than its worth.
 
Cheers Psycho Sonny, I sort of get the jist of it from your brief description of the bet being void if no one matches it.

Will either do the bet straight up, no changes or stick to Willy Hills, seems Quidco cashback is not always successful with Betfair anyway.

That free £20 one above you posted from 888 looks interesting :p
 
Cheers Psycho Sonny, I sort of get the jist of it from your brief description of the bet being void if no one matches it.

Will either do the bet straight up, no changes or stick to Willy Hills, seems Quidco cashback is not always successful with Betfair anyway.

That free £20 one above you posted from 888 looks interesting :p

well i have signed up to 2 new betting sites just to get free bets or cashback. 888 sport and eurosport bet has £25 cashback for a £10 bet so ive won £15 before the bet comes in.

like i said before all newcomers should stay away from betfair until they are more experienced, its a very complicated system and a simple mistake could cost you.
 
whatever odds are stated just go with them.

if you change them there is a chance your bet wont work.

its a lot to get your head around so im not even going to bother to explain, but if you change the odds, you have to hope that someone also lays those odds too and if they dont your bet is void.

Hmm, not really great advice. What if he's backing something in a market with no/little liquidity and he ends up with dismal odds for something until there is liquidity?


Ideal, thanks!
 
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Hmm, not really great advice. What if he's backing something in a market with no/little liquidity and he ends up with dismal odds for something until there is liquidity?



Ideal, thanks!

ive advised him not to use betfair due to it being so complicated. he doesnt fully understand why you can change odds so i told him to leave it. what would you advise him to do?
 
My brother in Canada is running a pool with some friends there on this years WC....sent me £1000 over and wants me to put £500 on Germany and £500 on Netherlands:eek::p

Told him hes nuts as i personally dont think Germany are that strong and the Dutch could be considered dark horses really as they are a strong team but seem to fall at the final hurdle.

Anyhow just have to get myself to a ladbrokes and put the bets down...im not betting myself but told him personally i think either Brazil or Spain will win the WC.
 
Germany have a good chance, but the favourites are Spain + Brazil. I think that if anybody but those two wins it'll be Argentina who will pull out a wildcard performance and Messi will destroy everybody.
 
Iv done my accumulator, 14 games, all good sides vs the bad bunch, £5 stake, £489 return if they come in, I was going to include netherlands vs denmark which would have bumped it up to about £700 but it felt too risky

Is there anything else worth betting on rather than accumulators? something that has a low risk factor and some good gain if I stick a fiver on?
 
Ok I've just signed up to betfair and am going to look like a royal noob now...



what the hell does this Back and Lay business mean?

When you 'lay' a football team or a horse etc you are basically saying that it won't win. So if you were to lay South Africa in the opening game you are basically backing Mexico and also the Draw.

The liability shown at the bottom right corner is the amount you would lose if the bet didn't go in your favour.
At the moment on Betfair South Africa are 2.92 if you lay them. If you staked £10 you would be liable for £19.20 if they went on to win the game. If they drew or Mexico won you would win your stake money i.e £10.

S.Africa win the match - you lose £19.20
S.Africa draw the match - you win £10
Mexico win the match - you win £10


When you place a lay bet you have to have the money in your betfair account to cover the bet. If you tried the above, but only had £5 in your account you wouldn't be able to place the bet.
 
World Cup Group Winners, Rock Bottom and To Qualify Uruguay, Greece, Algeria, Australia, Japan, New Zealand, North Korea, Honduras
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World Cup Group Winners, Rock Bottom and To Qualify South Africa, Greece, Algeria, Australia, Japan, New Zealand, North Korea, Honduras
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World Cup Group Winners, Rock Bottom and To Qualify England/USA, Germany/Serbia, Cameroon/Netherlands, Italy/Paraguay, Brazil/Portugal, Chile/Spain
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Is there anything else worth betting on rather than accumulators? something that has a low risk factor and some good gain if I stick a fiver on?

Think about what you're saying, of course not! And accumulators aren't 'low risk factor' either, that's why you have huge potential winnings. :p
 
Think about what you're saying, of course not! And accumulators aren't 'low risk factor' either, that's why you have huge potential winnings. :p

Ok so we have established I'm a noob at this :) how ever I do think I have a good selection. I was just wondering if there is something with low risk unlike accumulators that would give me something back. Im going to stick another accumulator in tomorrow I think
 
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