World Cup Hosts 2018

It's quite obvious that Russia and Quatar are getting it for the same reason South Africa got it.

My point exactly.

I like how lots of people say "we didn't expect to get it" with this much butt hurt you clearly did expect to get it.

I don't even follow football but I knew from the start we'd never get to host it again, any time soon. It's nothing to do with being "butt hurt" or sour grapes.
 
My point exactly.


Whats wrong with them getting it?

I think they benefit from it more then we do.

I don't even follow football but I knew from the start we'd never get to host it again, any time soon. It's nothing to do with being "butt hurt" or sour grapes.

Don't criticize what you don't understand :p

I think we didn't have as much of a chance as Russia from the off, Quatar took me a little by surprise.

I wouldn't be too shocked to see China or India get it soon after. FIFA seem to be set on taking the World Cup to countries that need the boost and it will help develope football in that part of the World.
 
I think that if we didn't recieve many votes it might just reflect two things.

We weren't that good, it's the English media that keeps telling us of lots of effort and a great bid.

We might just not fit with what FIFA want to achieve, look at South Africa, they're doing that in Russia / Quatar.

The Quatar bid looked amazing.

I don't know if its just me being biased but I felt we had one of the better if not the best bid presentation, and on top of that our technical report was rated as low risk. I honestly thought the race was between us and Spain. If the system is about who can host the best WC then fine, I accept the decision. If however it is about who can "move football forward" then I disagree, it is up to the footballing authorities within a country to move football forward and not a governing body. They cannot be seen to favour countries, especially (and I hate to reference this) given the anti English comments from high ranking members in the past.

Look at South Africa now. What a footballing legacy they've left there.

Edit: I would love to see a world cup before I'm 40 but that's unlikely to happen now. Yes I could go abroad but travel can be quite expensive and I'm not exactly on a huge income.
 
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Whats wrong with them getting it?

I think they benefit from it more then we do.

Nothing wrong with them getting it but it was always going to go to a country who never staged it before. So why let countrys who have hosted it even waste their time and millions?

Don't criticize what you don't understand :p

I understand football and know pretty much everything about the game. Still I don't follow it.
 
Nothing wrong with them getting it but it was always going to go to a country who never staged it before. So why let countrys who have hosted it even waste their time and millions?

Was it 15 mil we spent on the campaign? On top of that Fifa spent 3 mil on reports that only (if reports are to be believed) 3 committee members read. It just seems to be a giant waste of cash.
 
ah the Anti English biased.

The English media just ignore when the big wigs **** off Real madrid :)

I completely agree about South Africa, I think it bought the country together and did a lot for it, but I can't see much of a long term effect. It was surely the start, the test run if you will. The World Cup shouldn't be about giving it to the big football nations, it should be about showing the World Cup to the rest of the World. It's the biggest football competition in the world.

I think Russia will be good. Could see China or India getting it for a similar reason.

I think we had a decent big, I don't particulary think that our "big guns" would have impressed FIFA too much (flame suit on).
 
Nothing wrong with them getting it but it was always going to go to a country who never staged it before. So why let countrys who have hosted it even waste their time and millions?

What? ... :confsued:

So we shouldn't bid for these things? FIFA should just decide?

They looked at all the nations and while they came to Russia, you could clearly see other nations getting votes?
 
Was it 15 mil we spent on the campaign? On top of that Fifa spent 3 mil on reports that only (if reports are to be believed) 3 committee members read. It just seems to be a giant waste of cash.

How is this FIFA's fault?

15 million on a booklet for the World Cup? :p
 
How is this FIFA's fault?

15 million on a booklet for the World Cup? :p

15 mil wasted because FIFA wanted to give it to a new host. Don't get me wrong, I'm not complaining about the amount spent, more the fact that us and the other bids have wasted money on something that was seemingly never going to happen.
 
15 mil wasted because FIFA wanted to give it to a new host. Don't get me wrong, I'm not complaining about the amount spent, more the fact that us and the other bids have wasted money on something that was seemingly never going to happen.

I don't see how this has anything to do with FIFA?

I don't think FIFA decided where it was going before the campaigns started, I think Russia just become the favourites very quickly.

I remember yonks ago on the World Football Phone in they were talking up the Russian bid.
 
I don't see how this has anything to do with FIFA?

I don't think FIFA decided where it was going before the campaigns started, I think Russia just become the favourites very quickly.

I remember yonks ago on the World Football Phone in they were talking up the Russian bid.

Really? Given Blatters views on giving it to new countries? You've said yourself you expect China, etc to get it soon. We had technically (on reports) superior bid to Russia. Are you saying their presentation was really that astounding?


To address an earlier point:

ah the Anti English biased.

The English media just ignore when the big wigs **** off Real madrid :)

That doesn't dismiss from their remarks in the past and their comments about the English game.

Spain didn't get it either :p.
 
Was the money for the olympic bid a waste of money? or is that okay because we got the bid?

You seem very annoyed at this country for throwing money at something that could have been? :confused:

Would you rather we don't bid for these things?
 
That doesn't dismiss from their remarks in the past and their comments about the English game.

Spain didn't get it either :p.

No, but it's not some anti English thing that FIFA have going on, it's just an excuse that crops up every so often because churnaslists can't think or can't be critical.
 
No, but it's not some anti English thing that FIFA have going on, it's just an excuse that crops up every so often because churnaslists can't think or can't be critical.

Or alternativley because the comments are always made about English football first, and then foreign football second.


Also:

Was the money for the olympic bid a waste of money? or is that okay because we got the bid?

You seem very annoyed at this country for throwing money at something that could have been? :confused:

Would you rather we don't bid for these things?


15 mil wasted because FIFA wanted to give it to a new host. Don't get me wrong, I'm not complaining about the amount spent, more the fact that us and the other bids have wasted money on something that was seemingly never going to happen.

I'd like us to bid, and I would support a bid at the next world cup. I just think however that the voting policy within FIFA needs to be reviewed and I don't feel it picks hosts based on the best bids. What is the point in a presentation and all the inquiries if they are not going to be used?


No I don't think I do.

Russia probably spent a lot of money on their bid, as did many other nations, does this mean that nobody should bid and FIFA should just decide?

Could possibly be a less "corrupt" system.
 
Who reports all this "we had the best bid" English media.

We can't of had the "best bid" as we recieve one single vote, which is embarassing.

I agree that that might of being down to the media reporting ect ect, but even without that I don't think we'd have won this.

I want us to spend money on these things, if we don't get bids we should change and develope to get bids. One vote, we still have a lot of work to do.
 
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