World first QD-OLED monitor from Dell and Samsung (34 inch Ultrawide 175hz)

mrk said:
In an effort to remove vrr flicker for good which has proven to get slightly more annoying as I'm playing games with many dark scenes these days, I've disabled Gsync and am using RTSS's fps lock at 140. Since I have a 4090, I don't need to be concerned about low fps averages in demanding games so to hell with the flicker. Vsync off as always, Gsync off, fps lock on. It's pure smoothness as expected with no additional latency. RTSS only adds 1ms of latency total, so a complete non-issue.
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This only works if it's a solid 140

If framerate is 140 one second and 100 the next, you will get screen tearing

As much as I dislike the near black flicker, I hate screen tearing much more
 
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34 inch 3440x1440 240hz QD-OLED available to purchase in early 2024

This monitor uses a 2nd Gen QD OLED panel so it's brighter than our current monitors

Also on a side note:

27 inch 2560x1440 360hz and
32 inch 3840x2160 240hz monitors will be for sale in the 2nd half of 2024.

Lastly, a 27 inch 2560x1440 480hz QD-OLED monitor will be for sale by mid 2025

 
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Rawr said:
Results seem out for the first 4 months of the burn in longevity test rtings were doing on the AW3423DWF. It seems like it's sadly following the Samsung QDOLED tv in showing signs of burn in after 4 months of the test. Admittedly this is the absolute worse case scenario of having a lot of the same bright static content for most hours of every day, I think they've got all the screens set to full brightness too, but it's definitely not living up to Samsungs claims of it being better for burn in than the LGs. Either way, it's looking like we'll potentially need to use that 3 year warranty it came with lol.

https://www.rtings.com/monitor/reviews/dell/alienware-aw3423dwf (Scroll down to the longevity section)
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I can't see any burn in in those images

I'll be doing a warranty replacement on mine anyway; I've got a red stuck bright pixel and will use that to rma a replacement just before the warranty ends
 
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Its fine, slightly more hassle than having a gsync module but it's fine. My TV uses VRR/Adaptive sync and if fps drops under 40 it tears, if fps goes above 120 it also tears. My two monitors with Gsync modules do not have this limitation and operate tear free well under and well above the refresh rate.

That's about the only difference other than bugs, any other differences is just bugs the VRR/Adaptive Sync monitor has because of poor quality assurance

It's also bad luck for the DW because Nvidia now does allow user firmware updates on the latest revision of Gsync, so going forward Gsync monitors can be updated by the user but older stuff like the DW are stuck with the firmware that shipped
 
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if you can hear the fan while gaming or even just web browsing then you should rma the monitor. The fan when you have one works correctly is dead silent
 
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Great thing with Alienware is they send out the replacement before you send the rmaunit back. So assuming your monitor you are doing an RMA on still turns on, there is no downtime, so much better than some other brands where you have to send the rma back first then wait weeks for a new monitor
 
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SpartaP said:
It's do with the HDR output the game/content offers. When it's real bright and vibrant it's HDR10 PQ, and when it's orange it's HDR(scRGB).

Cyberpunk is an example that offers both options
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The funny thing is I've experienced the same thing, bright red hard to read text and also orange text in the same game, not changing game settings, just turning HDR on and off in Windows.

When I get the bright red text, I usually shut down the game and toggle HDR on/off a couple times and then start the game again and then it's fixed.
When the game is showing the red text MSI overlay it's not just that text thats affected, the entire game will look too dark. The most recent game I had this issue in was Star Wars Jedi Survivor, I'd have HDR in Windows on, then start the game and MSI overlay would be red and the game would look extremely dark and over saturated, then I close the game, toggle HDR off/on, restart the game and it looks great

I believe whatever causes this is a Windows problem, Windows is incorrectly doing a mismatch of HDR color mapping compared to what the game wants.
Plug a Playstation 5 into your monitor and you'll never have this problem ever, HDR displays correctly, not washed out, not too dark, just prefect every time. Windows HDR is garbage
 
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Ayahuasca said:
I wonder what they'll do for replacements 3 years after these are discontinued.

It seems that even with minor burn-in, they don't even ask questions and just replace them, so it seems a no brainer to use it towards the end of the warranty.
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At that stage I'm expecting they'll just give out new monitors of a different model. OLED isn't going anywhere so they'll still be selling an OLED monitor in 3 years it might just be a different model and if you have a DW you may lose gsync ultimate
 
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Alienware have announced two news QD-OLED monitors

* AW2725DF is a 27inch 1440p 360hz, flat panel

* AW3225QF is a 32 inch 4k 240hz, curved panel

Both monitors launch January 2024, just two months from now!

Alienware says both monitors will also come with the 3 year burn in warranty as the existing aw34 monitors do.

 
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casaubond said:
Has anyone noticed the fan which is always on the AW3423DW getting louder, or is it just my imagination? The Gsync fan rarely starts and has a weird breathing type of sound, but the always-on fan is significantly more noticeable now for me on top of the usual PC fans.

Should I ask for a replacement from Dell? The monitor is almost 1 1/2 old and I still have a warranty until mid-2025. I suspect the reason I am reluctant to ask is that I was really lucky with the screen - no dead pixels and no burn-in signs although I am using it for desktop use/work significantly
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Mine still sounds the same and by sounds the same I mean I've never being able to hear it
 
JediFragger said:
Lower input lag on the DWF for this reason, it's well tuned ;)
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Lower input lag cause no gsync module? Spose it's possible but there are monitors with gsync modules posting same or better latency as the dwf such as the Asus PG27AQN. The PG27AQN's gsync module also supports ulmb2 which gives that particular monitor motion clarity on par with a 500 to 600hz panel, but that's not related to latency it's a different thing all together
 
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Nexus18 said:
Do people use the windows hdr calibration app from microsoft on these displays? I get the impression that is more aimed towards displays which don't have great out of the box calibration? @mrk
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Yes you should use it, everyone should use it, Microsoft should probably run the app by default the first time you plug in an hdr monitor
 
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Dicehunter said:
DW is a great monitor no doubt but I have to agree with Hardware Unboxed's video from June, Given the choice the DWF especially with the latest firmware is a no brainer compared to the DW as the only real world difference now is a G-Sync module and 10Hz while being £200 more expensive. If it was the same price yeah sure but £200 for 10Hz and a G-sync module that you'll never be able to tell the difference compared to the latest implementation of VRR ? No thanks, I'd rather pocket the £200 :D
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The DW was the better choice for several months and that's not uncommon. AMD allows manufacturers to launch Freesync and VRR monitors in a completely broken state where as Nvidia refuses to certify monitors that don't work, that's probably because Nvidia doesn't like firmware updates so the monitor need to be as trouble free as possible.

that's just a side effect of the two different business models. Freesync monitors will often be broken at release and need several months of firmware updates to get fixed, that's why they are cheaper but if you wait a while and buy them later then they work just fine like the dwf does now on.

Like Nvidia says, it just works and the more you buy the more you save - and that applies to monitors and applied to the DW vs the DWF, the DW just worked, period and you paid more but saved time and hassle.
 
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Review for one of the first monitors using 2nd Gen qdOLED panels

While peak HDR brightness isn't overall much better at certain window sizes there is some 10 to 30% improvements. Full screen sdr can now also reach just under 300 nits.

Color fringing on text still exists unfortunately, though text is a bit more legible because the outlines of fonts are sharper


 
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I've got about 30 dead pixels on my C9 but no burn in. All the dead pixels are along the edges of the panel and the C9 panel is stupidly thin with no protection against flex so I think the TV may have been damaged at some point during moving it around. Either that or there must be some scientific reason why all my dead pixels are on the panel edge
 
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there is no such monitor setting, increase brightness increases it for everything. It's up to the software you use to give you a text color or brightness option, most software doesn't. Microsoft office doesn't give text brightness but you can change text color to a darker color like grey. Netflix allows text brightness for subtitles to be changed. So yeah it's down to what software you're using. Some games allow changing the brightness of text and UI when using HDR
 
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