World first QD-OLED monitor from Dell and Samsung (34 inch Ultrawide 175hz)

Ok so bit of a big update. Some will recall I've had the i1 Display Pro for years now and calibrated all my screens with it, namely the old LG 34UM95-P which worked amazingly thanks to having a built in LUT that LG's software used the i1 for and profiled directly to the monitor. No faffing with icc profiles.

I've personally never liked calibrating via icc profiles as even a GFX driver update can mean the need to recalibrate if the new driver changes anything to do with the display output colours etc, whereas hardware LUT profiling is fixed to the monitor, and all input sources gain the same calibrated output.

I tried calibrating when the DW first came out but no software supported QD-OLED, and you need a spectral profile for the calibration software to tell the software how to read the panel type basically, at that time only like 1 or 2 spectral profiles existed on the DisplayCAL global database, and it was unclear how accurate these were but I tried them anyway and didn't like the results I was getting as they didn't seem "right" to my eyes.

I figured today I'd give it another shot and saw that recent spectral profiles have been uploaded to the database and they are labelled correctly too, as I work in sRGB for everything, I picked the sRGB one.

First I ran a calibration whilst in Creator mode on the OSD, the results were good but showed the sRGB colour range at 96% coverage, and when in HDR mode in Windows, using the HDR calibrated profile with the MS tool, the colours looked out of whack.

I then reran calibration but this time with the OSD in custom colour mode and used the DisplayCAL measurement window to adjust OSD RGB values to meet in the middle, also adjusted brightness and contrast to meet my new desired target brightness of 120cd/m2 which is the recommended brightness for office use displays in normal lighting conditions. Before this I was using anywhere from 90 to 120 depending on how I felt.

The before reading of just doing the reading when in Creator mode for sRGB was this:

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Clearly there is too much green which without a back and forth comparison wasn't obvious, and a dE of 6.6 seemed odd too.

But setting the OSD to custom colour and adjusting the RGB and brightness/contrast to get everything in the middle resulted in these new readings:

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The calibration took about 18 minutes, which is also much longer than what I recall way back when I first tried it using the early spectral profiles, so clearly the latest ones are what they should be now for QD-OLED.

Result:

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A dE of 0.63, that's a bit better than my LG34UM95-P which was about 0.78 at its best.

What I'm now seeing are more punchy colours vs Creator Mode, but all calibrated to 6500K, and my new luminance of 120cd/m2 (ignore the screen above showing 100, that was before other adjustments were made). I am really pleased with this, and will keep an eye on GFX driver change notes for if they change anything to do with colour, I'll have to recalibrate.

HDR also has the correct colours now too, so switching to custom colour sorted that out it seems.

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So as it stands, Windows is now using two icc profiles, one exclusively for HDR, created with the Microsoft HDR Calibration Tool, and one created using DisplayCAL with the spectral profile chosen for sRGB.

For reference my RGB values in Custom Colour are: R 100 G 92 B 94. Brightness is now 56, and contrast is now 70. This results in the 120cd/m2 luminance measured.

Happy days!


How do I get two ICC hdr profiles for windows? Currently I can only get one at a time loaded and it calibrated to whatever screen I did it on but then my other hdr panels are forced to use the same profile. Can windows support one individual icc hdr profile for each screen?
 
Why colour space DCI-P3? I thought sRGB was the one to go for?
Interested!

Some people just prefer over saturated colors, which is what using dci-p3 in sdr generally does. There is some windows programs that can be used with dci-p3 in sdr and look normal because they have the color profile for it and that's the only reason why Alienware even lets us select between Srgb and dci-p3, it's for the odd person who uses professional apps that can view dci-p3 correctly but windows itself and most programs and most SDR games are calibrated for SRGB, so when you un-clamp the color space with dci-p3 that the game was not calibrated for, it results in a high contrast, highly saturated image.
 
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Neither is panel refresh harmful

Pixel refresh is for removing temporary image retention. Panel refresh is for removing burn in as described in the new rtings vid

By the way guys, don't watch 16:9 content on your AW/AWF. They don't like it and it can rapidly cause permanent burn in. 2nd gen QD-OLED panels don't have this problem as demonstrated in the video

 
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Btw guys, dunno if anyone noticed but few months ago Nvidia decided to allow user firmware updates for Gsync ultimate monitors and initially it was just the new 360hz ulmb2 ASUS monitor that could do it, but the updates are rolling out to others too

And now as of 5 December you can update your aw3423dw yourself to the latest firmware

The firmware below will update your Gsync aw34 to MOB205. It's a 114MB download and takes 10 minutes to install

 
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Sadly no change to flicker between MOB204 and MOB205:
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The aw23 suffers from random flickering that can occur in any scenario, completely unrelated to VRR flicker and that's probably what was fixed. It's kind of common for me, I can be using Microsoft excel and the screen will just go black for a split second and come back, does it maybe two or three times in a 8 hour day. So hoping that's what the firmware fixes
 
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Mine seems to be updating now, was on mob103

It wasn't working at first, I ended up having to remove my hdr color profile from windows
 
Ok it's worked, it's saying I'm on mob106

I would keep the file guys. The updater program checks for new firmware so in future you can just run it to look for new firmware
 
I wonder what Dell did to drop the latency in the new firmware?


I mean I can't even feel the difference but tech speaking at full 175hz refresh the monitor has 50% lower input latency now than on the previous firmware and that's huge
 
The refusing to power on from standby happened to me on my previous aw34. Back then we could not update our own firmware, so I had to RMA my monitor and they sent a new one which has been awesome. Its either a hardware defect or a bug in older firmware. Update to the newest firmware, I've seen others post online saying the issue is gone after updating firmware
 
Serious question guys

Is there a technical reason why we don't yet have any high PPI 21:9 monitors?

Why can't manufacturers make a 21:9 34 inch with a resolution of 5160x2160. 5160x2160 is the natural next step from 3440x1440 as it's 50% more pixels on each axis and would create a high ppi screen
 
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Yeah I have my doubts about this. A RGB sub pixel would not be a WOLED anymore so the chart is wrong by calling it WOLED. It implies LG is working on a brand new type of OLED panel to replace WOLED.

Maybe it's true, we'll have to see, but LG has not announced any technology breakthroughs that I'm aware of to imply they have a way to produce bright, burn in free RGB panels. The problem with existing RGB panels is they easily burn in and don't get as bright
 
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Video says they are just playing and testing the idea, so not committing to it. We'll see what happens. Its not like it hasn't been done, before woled came around, companies did make true RGB panels but they were dim and burned in easy, there are after all is a reason why LG added white pixel and Samsung added a blue back light to their panels. So unless LG has made a technical breakthrough, taking existing panel tech and removing the white pixel just means that true LG RGB panels will need to be extra dim - I'd guess capped at 150 nits - but it's been a while since LG tried doing true RGB and their pixels have improved so maybe they can get it a little brighter without damaging the pixels.



I'm very interested in that 34 inch 5120x2160 240hz panel. Whomever can make a monitor with those specs first will get my money, don't care if it's QD OLED or woled just give it to me
 
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For those who always ask if a nvidia gpu works better with adaptive sync and so on:



That's being my experience as well. Gsync compatible is fine as long as it has a wide VRR range and you never get close to the boundaries. Unfortunately for current TVs, they have narrow VRR ranges so issues are encountered more often. Also, while rare, I have encountered an issue once in a while where a game wil still have some tearing even when well within VRR range on a Gsync compatible TV, almost like it's not engaging but then on a hardware Gsync monitor it works fine
 
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