World first QD-OLED monitor from Dell and Samsung (34 inch Ultrawide 175hz)

Rawr said:
Results seem out for the first 4 months of the burn in longevity test rtings were doing on the AW3423DWF. It seems like it's sadly following the Samsung QDOLED tv in showing signs of burn in after 4 months of the test. Admittedly this is the absolute worse case scenario of having a lot of the same bright static content for most hours of every day, I think they've got all the screens set to full brightness too, but it's definitely not living up to Samsungs claims of it being better for burn in than the LGs. Either way, it's looking like we'll potentially need to use that 3 year warranty it came with lol.

https://www.rtings.com/monitor/reviews/dell/alienware-aw3423dwf (Scroll down to the longevity section)
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I can't see any burn in in those images

I'll be doing a warranty replacement on mine anyway; I've got a red stuck bright pixel and will use that to rma a replacement just before the warranty ends
 
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Grim5 said:
I can't see any burn in in those images

I'll be doing a warranty replacement on mine anyway; I've got a red stuck bright pixel and will use that to rma a replacement just before the warranty ends
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It's noticeable on blue and magenta:

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But yeah, I was likely going to do a RMA either way a bit before the warranty expires. Since this is an early version I'm sure I could just push for it under any of the myriad of firmware bugs, lol.
 
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Dirk Diggler said:
£50
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At this price range there won't be a huge variation in quality really, they'll be fine with limited movement, or lots of movement and thus wobble too maybe if you get some genetic brand ones.

I've installed these below at work before and they're good, the AW is under 7KG, so perfectly suited.

Invision Single Monitor Arm Desk Mount for 19 to 32 Inch Screens - VESA 75 & 100mm Stand Desk Clamp - Tool Free Height Adjustment with Tilt Swivel Rotate - Increased Load Capacity from 2-9kg (MX200) https://amzn.eu/d/hfrw36a
 
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mrk said:

Spoiler alert, DW ranks 7th, DWF ranks 1st.

7th because of no user firmware upgrades, price still high, higher input latency (unaffected by this myself tbh but haven't used a DWF so can't compare).

1dt because of the opposite reasons to the above :p

If I was buying again now then I'd get the DWF for sure as it's cheaper and slightly more colour accurate in Creator mode.
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Thanks for linking this vid, need to watch this

I thought the DW was no longer being sold? Well...from Dell direct at least.
You're right tho the DWF having the capability to have firmware updates is great, large oversight on the DW but at least the DW out the box is great.

Would you miss having the nvidia gsync module if you had to go for the DWF?
 
As I have a 4090 now, I wouldn't be bothered, because low fps variations are a thing of no concern any more :p It's everything 100fps or more and for that any form of VRR does the job the same :D

I also wonder if the VRR flicker is any different on the DWF vs the DW, whatever the way, the next QD-OLED upgrade I do should be a marked improvement for VRR flicker anyway so all's good I guess.
 
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SpartaP said:
Thanks for linking this vid, need to watch this

I thought the DW was no longer being sold? Well...from Dell direct at least.
You're right tho the DWF having the capability to have firmware updates is great, large oversight on the DW but at least the DW out the box is great.

Would you miss having the nvidia gsync module if you had to go for the DWF?
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I certainly do not miss G-Sync.

The only difference, as far as I know, is that G-Sync works at lower FPS, but since I can always maintain a healthy FPS then it's of no concern. Certainly, I have never had an issue with Freesync and a G-Sync card.

(I have two Dell monitors, one is G-Sync and the other is the DWF and I run them both at the same time, never seen an issue!)
 
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mrk said:
As I have a 4090 now, I wouldn't be bothered, because low fps variations are a thing of no concern any more :p It's everything 100fps or more and for that any form of VRR does the job the same :D

I also wonder if the VRR flicker is any different on the DWF vs the DW, whatever the way, the next QD-OLED upgrade I do should be a marked improvement for VRR flicker anyway so all's good I guess.
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PCMonitors.info @PCM2 still values the gsync module over freesync for things like this:


I still have an affinity to the ‘DW’ due to the other benefits I mentioned on the first page of this thread – related to the G-SYNC module (lower VRR flickering, seamless operation throughout VRR range and less ‘micro stuttering’).
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Yet to see any downsides to the DWF VRR in comparison to my ROG gysync screen. They perform exactly the same

I’m not saying there ain’t freesync screens that aren’t problematic though… Just my experience with the DWF
 
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The DWF latest firmwares appear to have fixed all of the issues it had so I see no issues with getting a DWF over a DW now given the DWF is actually updated and any DW issues are left... unfixed. I'll stick with my DW for the remainder of the warranty and then see what burn in is like and file a claim for the latest revision (or new model) before the warranty is up. Adaptive sync is adaptive sync at the end of the day, if the display has it implemented well with a sorted firmware, it should function the same on high end rigs regardless of freesync or gsync, after all that is part of the adaptive sync standard.

LG have OLED monitors with hardware LUTs from what HWUB said in the video I linked earlier, so calibrations are stored directly to the monitor just like my old 34" ultrawide IPS. When a 34" QD-OLED/WOLED/pOLED or whatever LG use comes out with one of those then I will jump right on it as I can properly use the i1display pro again. Colour profiling via GPU isn't a method I prefer, hardware LUT is more unified and just better all round, and LG's calibration software is also very good.

That's essentially the dream right there. Ultrawide OLED, VRR, hardware LUT. I don't care about higher resolutions as for desktop 3440x1440 is fine at 34", and for games I use DLDSR anyway so get above 4K.
 
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Its fine, slightly more hassle than having a gsync module but it's fine. My TV uses VRR/Adaptive sync and if fps drops under 40 it tears, if fps goes above 120 it also tears. My two monitors with Gsync modules do not have this limitation and operate tear free well under and well above the refresh rate.

That's about the only difference other than bugs, any other differences is just bugs the VRR/Adaptive Sync monitor has because of poor quality assurance

It's also bad luck for the DW because Nvidia now does allow user firmware updates on the latest revision of Gsync, so going forward Gsync monitors can be updated by the user but older stuff like the DW are stuck with the firmware that shipped
 
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Grim5 said:
Its fine, slightly more hassle than having a gsync module but it's fine. My TV uses VRR/Adaptive sync and if fps drops under 40 it tears, if fps goes above 120 it also tears. My two monitors with Gsync modules do not have this limitation and operate tear free well under and well above the refresh rate.

That's about the only difference other than bugs, any other differences is just bugs the VRR/Adaptive Sync monitor has because of poor quality assurance

It's also bad luck for the DW because Nvidia now does allow user firmware updates on the latest revision of Gsync, so going forward Gsync monitors can be updated by the user but older stuff like the DW are stuck with the firmware that shipped
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I have to say that I have never tried going faster than the refresh rate. I always follow the NVIDIA's advice of using the Max FPS in the NVIDIA Control Panel to at least two less than the refresh rate of the monitor.

If peeps can't manage more than 48fps with a 3440x1440 monitor, then they are buying the wrong thing. They should be buying a new graphics card instead of spending nearly £1000 on a monitor!!!! :cry:

Fortunately, the DW shipped with very good firmware. It's equally fortunate that the DWF did have updates, because it didn't.

I would be more impressed if Microsoft sorted itself out and added ClearType settings for multiple monitors and different sub-pixel layouts. That has always been the biggest weakness of both of the monitors - the fact that they are STILL not supported correctly by software.
 
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