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It's do with the HDR output the game/content offers. When it's real bright and vibrant it's HDR10 PQ, and when it's orange it's HDR(scRGB).

Cyberpunk is an example that offers both options
 
Dirk Diggler said:
Ah, thanks for that it's been bugging me for ages. I always think the PQ version looks better, am I imagining that?
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I think it's mostly down to personal preference but (I'm no expert) I believe scRGB is technically more accurate which I remember reading a while back.

I've just found the following which may help explain why

"scRGB is technically more accurate because it uses full color depth (16 bit), and then compresses the output. PQ does the entire process at 10 bit, making it less accurate. This also makes scRGB take a bit more performance. But in reality, you won't notice a picture quality difference even with a device higher than 10 bit. You should only use scRGB if you notice banding."

Also here's a link for a bit more in-depth explanation between the 2 differences

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Okay… Basically, the first HDR option uses a 10:10:10:2 framebuffer 10-bit red / green / blue 2-bit alpha (not important) The second HDR option (scRGB) uses a 16:16:16:16 framebuffer 16-bit red / green / blue / alpha HDR10 scRGB (16-bit) is higher quality; 16 is larger than...
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SpartaP said:
It's do with the HDR output the game/content offers. When it's real bright and vibrant it's HDR10 PQ, and when it's orange it's HDR(scRGB).

Cyberpunk is an example that offers both options
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The funny thing is I've experienced the same thing, bright red hard to read text and also orange text in the same game, not changing game settings, just turning HDR on and off in Windows.

When I get the bright red text, I usually shut down the game and toggle HDR on/off a couple times and then start the game again and then it's fixed.
When the game is showing the red text MSI overlay it's not just that text thats affected, the entire game will look too dark. The most recent game I had this issue in was Star Wars Jedi Survivor, I'd have HDR in Windows on, then start the game and MSI overlay would be red and the game would look extremely dark and over saturated, then I close the game, toggle HDR off/on, restart the game and it looks great

I believe whatever causes this is a Windows problem, Windows is incorrectly doing a mismatch of HDR color mapping compared to what the game wants.
Plug a Playstation 5 into your monitor and you'll never have this problem ever, HDR displays correctly, not washed out, not too dark, just prefect every time. Windows HDR is garbage
 
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Grim5 said:
The funny thing is I've experienced the same thing, bright red hard to read text and also orange text in the same game, not changing game settings, just turning HDR on and off in Windows.

When I get the bright red text, I usually shut down the game and toggle HDR on/off a couple times and then start the game again and then it's fixed.
When the game is showing the red text MSI overlay it's not just that text thats affected, the entire game will look too dark. The most recent game I had this issue in was Star Wars Jedi Survivor, I'd have HDR in Windows on, then start the game and MSI overlay would be red and the game would look extremely dark and over saturated, then I close the game, toggle HDR off/on, restart the game and it looks great

I believe whatever causes this is a Windows problem, Windows is incorrectly doing a mismatch of HDR color mapping compared to what the game wants.
Plug a Playstation 5 into your monitor and you'll never have this problem ever, HDR displays correctly, not washed out, not too dark, just prefect every time. Windows HDR is garbage
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Is this with a specific game or all games that offer HDR10PQ? (Just seen your edit)

RDR2 does this to my overlay too but it's interesting how it goes back to the normal overlay colours when switching to the alternative HDR option (Cyberpunk for example).

I need to try the toggle on/off trick and see if that works for me too. I completely agree that windows HDR isn't great compared other platforms. One of the main reasons I left win10 to win11 was in the hope for better HDR experience.
 
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no_1_dave said:
I turn off the overlay in HDR games cos it's too bright and distracting
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Sit further back. Though when you do that, 34" probably becomes too small. This is why the 42" OLED and above are so popular for gaming monitors. Sit far enough away that HDR on looks amazing and doesn't strain the eyes.
 
Dave2150 said:
Sit further back. Though when you do that, 34" probably becomes too small. This is why the 42" OLED and above are so popular for gaming monitors. Sit far enough away that HDR on looks amazing and doesn't strain the eyes.
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HDR looks amazing... It's the rivatuner fps and cpu usage overlay that gets too bright and I've not been able to find a way to dim it down
 
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I must be sleeping under a rock, didn't realise OLED screens were here already! Ordered one today. I went for freesync option as apparently its quiet even though I have nvidia card.

Looks like text is pretty awful on this so I'll keep my 32" LG 4k with ergo stand as well for text related activities.
 
Orangeade said:
I must be sleeping under a rock, didn't realise OLED screens were here already! Ordered one today. I went for freesync option as apparently its quiet even though I have nvidia card.

Looks like text is pretty awful on this so I'll keep my 32" LG 4k with ergo stand as well for text related activities.
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I don't find text awful at all, maybe I'm not sensitive to it but I used bettercleartype and have never thought about it since.
 
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Minstadave said:
I don't find text awful at all, maybe I'm not sensitive to it but I used bettercleartype and have never thought about it since.
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Hopefully that is the case, would be nice to just have one monitor again as two is always a little awkward in home environment.

Other risk I guess is burn in, but with a 3 year warranty who gives a ****.
 
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