***World of Warcraft : Warlords of Draenor***

Lunawolfy said:
I can't recall the gear you get from it, but if it's a big increase you'll see Highmaul getting finished pretty quickly.
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The difficulty and gear quality is as follows:

Mythic Foundry (695)
Mythic Highmaul (685)
Heroic Foundry (680)
Heroic Highmaul (670)
Normal Foundry (665)
Normal Highmaul (655)
LFR Foundry (650)
LFR Foundry (640)

Will be cool to have two raids to progress side by side on the same tier again, I liked it when they did that in Vanilla/TBC and at the start of Cata.
 
Yeah I quite like that. I need to get a move on and get Curve achievement before it releases. You just know the better pugs for Foundry are going to insist on that achievement to get an invite even though it will have no relevance :/.

Just haven't found the willingness to do Imperator HC yet. I'll join one of the face roll groups and hope that there isn't many mine trippers in there.

If anybody needs a Horde Holy Pala ilvl 667 to join their Imperator HC kill let me know. I'm not a retard and I won't set mines off :D.
 
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I have to disagree, regarding the relevance of the curve achievement. I spent hours and hours and hours wiping in pugs to get it. to me it proves that the person has put in the time to learn the fight, and has the ability to perform to a high enough standard (dps/hps ect).

I am quite reluctant to try to kill IMP HC (and sometimes raid the entire instance) without a "curve" group. Why? because ive spent my time (hours) learning and progressing through the fight, i dont want to have to do that all over again.

I'm looking forward to BRF - as fingers crossed the curve will give me access to decent pugs.

Note i dont raid in a guild, i simply LFG. so i have to rely on pugs!

note trying to sound EJ or anything, but its a really important achievement. what might not be relevent is I-level as its not a measure of ability (to a certain extent)
 
It's not relevant to raiding in BRF at all.

You're right in that it implies a certain dedication to get the kill but it doesn't necessarily imply any particular skill. Time learning a fight != skill. Note I'm not saying you don't have skill I'm arguing against the basis of your point.

All it proves is either a lot of gold to buy a boost or happening to join a group where everybody knows what they're doing which is what you need. It's not a 'difficult' fight - just requires people to know what to do. The mechanics themselves aren't overly complex.

I've done the whole raiding for EU top 10-25s in Vanilla and TBC thing so I'm confident in my ability to do my own job properly. I think I've messed up once EVER in Highmaul and that was borderline tanks fault for running the wrong way with the arcane on Ko'ragh but I should have seen and not ran through his path. Having played with many people with and without Curve I haven't seen any distinction in player skill. In terms of HPS I'm nearly always top except for Ko'ragh but HPS / DPS aren't really a massively important measure. I prefer to look at Damage Taken in terms of avoidable things as a measure of skill. Any old newb can stand still and rattle through their rotation doing massive damage but if you're taking ludicrous amounts of damage then you're probably a net drain on the raid.

I'm sad I just join HC raids even if I can't loot the boss. Do it for 'fun' :o.

I will get Curve before BRF because unfortunately a lot of people judge skill on an achievement but if it's their group they are of course entitled to apply their own selection criteria.
 
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Got to agree with Rusty, you can be the most skilled player in the world with your class but if even 1 person messes up twice in HC highmaul it can be a wipe.
 
S7rider said:
Regarding the cheese method and have loads of healers, how do you manage the adds (both arcane ones and the ogers dring transitions) because surely they must have loads of life and take ages to kill

+ the adds in phase 4 which need to be killed, they must take a long tme too? dont you get a back log or do you just ignore them in the last phase and heal through?
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Boss scales horribly, more people = easier to kill.
 
Rusty0611 said:
It's not relevant to raiding in BRF at all.

You're right in that it implies a certain dedication to get the kill but it doesn't necessarily imply any particular skill. Time learning a fight != skill. Note I'm not saying you don't have skill I'm arguing against the basis of your point.

All it proves is either a lot of gold to buy a boost or happening to join a group where everybody knows what they're doing which is what you need. It's not a 'difficult' fight - just requires people to know what to do. The mechanics themselves aren't overly complex.

I've done the whole raiding for EU top 10-25s in Vanilla and TBC thing so I'm confident in my ability to do my own job properly. I think I've messed up once EVER in Highmaul and that was borderline tanks fault for running the wrong way with the arcane on Ko'ragh but I should have seen and not ran through his path. Having played with many people with and without Curve I haven't seen any distinction in player skill. In terms of HPS I'm nearly always top except for Ko'ragh but HPS / DPS aren't really a massively important measure. I prefer to look at Damage Taken in terms of avoidable things as a measure of skill. Any old newb can stand still and rattle through their rotation doing massive damage but if you're taking ludicrous amounts of damage then you're probably a net drain on the raid.

I'm sad I just join HC raids even if I can't loot the boss. Do it for 'fun' :o.

I will get Curve before BRF because unfortunately a lot of people judge skill on an achievement but if it's their group they are of course entitled to apply their own selection criteria.
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Whats your armory?
 
ubersonic said:
The difficulty and gear quality is as follows:

Mythic Foundry (695)
Mythic Highmaul (685)
Heroic Foundry (680)
Heroic Highmaul (670)
Normal Foundry (665)
Normal Highmaul (655)
LFR Foundry (650)
LFR Foundry (640)

Will be cool to have two raids to progress side by side on the same tier again, I liked it when they did that in Vanilla/TBC and at the start of Cata.
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This will be nice as we are clearing HC and 2/7M in one night.

Two concurrent raids will give great suggestion to another raid night.
 
Lord-Jaffa said:
Whats your armory?
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Rustey, Tarren Mill, Blood Elf Paladin. Can't load the website properly at work :p.

Got another set of 6 HC kills again last night but don't think that is reflected on there yet.

Going to join some HC Imperator groups tonight. The lads I play with aren't that bothered about raiding so we tend to just start a group and do as much as we can and then I solo pug the rest.
 
Anyone know of any casual raiding guilds recruiting?

My guild is dead. Don't go on Teamspeak, run heroics or anything! Currently at 615 ilvl and rising quick so would love alt runs/farming runs until I'm better geared. Not looking for a boost, just people to play with :)
 
Sin_Chase said:
I've had various break periods without an active sub but will be interesting to see if I am eligible.
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I think the whole idea is that it's a reward for people who have subscribed for 10 years unbroken. They've also sent out emails to the eligible people already, so no email = no gift.
 
theres differing info going around tho as some people who have received the gift have said they had periods of lapsed subs. Now either they are trolling, lying or blizzard had more conditions than just a continious sub.

Its a great touch from them tho regardless and the amount of rage on the forums from everyone who had RL issues preventing them from subbing the whole time feels like they deserve one too.

Honestly blizz cant ever win
 
I've played since day of release, but i had to let my Sub drop for a few months while i worked away in Wotlk, i havent had an email so i guess its just for unbroken subs.

Nice gift yeah, i guess we have payed over £1000 in subscription over the years so they proberbly made a few quid from us.

Besides i dunno why people are complaining, even if ya let your subscription drop for a few months youve saved your self that money, i would prefer that money rather than a little blizzard statue , if they were giving out them Swords they give to their employees for 10 years working for them, then it would be a different matter. :)
 
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mulpsmebeauty said:
I think the whole idea is that it's a reward for people who have subscribed for 10 years unbroken. They've also sent out emails to the eligible people already, so no email = no gift.
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According to the news posts they had not sent emails at all, only delivery notifications in the US.

If it's 10 years of unbroken subs then there is probably only about 9 people worldwide whom are eligible :p
 
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