Worst car I've ever driven

While Corsas are nasty cars, I think describing it as being dangerous because it's so slow is a bit melodramatic. Anyone glued to your rear bumper is a numpty who should learn to drive properly and give other road users some consideration.

I've owned two cars with top speeds in the region of 65-70mph and 0-60 times of 25 seconds+ - neither is remotely dangerous provided you're aware of its limitations and drive it accordingly.

Current daily driver has a whopping 54bhp and is more than quick enough in modern traffic. Have no difficulty adjusting between that and my own car with 3 times the power.
 
[TW]Fox;11812617 said:
Their way is right for them, but only becuase in their world, nothing else exists. Unless you'd like to justify buying a brand new Corsa becuase the Vauxhall dealer is 3 miles closer than the Ford dealer.
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Clearly, they see nothing that the Ford has that the VX doesn't.. and in their minds, everything else being equal, the closer dealer makes sense to them.. Why is it difficult to grasp the fact many many people would drive a fiesta and a corsa and think they are largely the 'same'?? to most people a car is just a car, 4 wheels, seats/steering wheel/cd player..

You have far too much faith in the British public if you think every car purchase is informed..
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I don't think everyone always makes an informed decision, we know that few people buy the 'optimum' solution to their situation, but all cars are a waste of money, most cars when you take their track prowess out of the equation, when driven at less then 50% of their capability all the time, it would seem that the largest deciding factors are things like colour/make/registration plate..

I'm also getting sick of people telling me I assume everyone has 'critiera identical to mine'. Either do me the courtesy of bothering to read my post in full, or don't waste your time compiling a reply if thats what you think. If you were right with that, why would I have listed the alternative cars I listed? I wouldn't. A post in which I assume the criteria is the same as mine would contain no Ford Focus, no Toyota Yaris and absolutely definately NO VW Golfs.
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I don't think anyone means you literally do this, but if lots of people are telling you this is how you are, then perhaps their is a little truth to it?

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Has it really been 3 years
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Yeah, I know, jousting aside, it was registered in September 05..
 
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Demon said:
Clearly, they see nothing that the Ford has that the VX doesn't.. and in their minds, everything else being equal, the closer dealer makes sense to them.. Why is it difficult to grasp the fact many many people would drive a fiesta and a corsa and think they are largely the 'same'?? to most people a car is just a car, 4 wheels, seats/steering wheel/cd player..
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I really can't understand why you miss the point - they dont go 'Well, the Fiesta and the Corsa are largely the same, so I think I'll just go with the nearest'. They simply walk into Vauxhall and buy the Corsa. They wouldnt know what the Fiesta offers or the Yaris or the Polo becuase they simply didnt bother to even check. THAT is my point!

It is no co-incidence that these are the same people who, when it comes to buying a TV, simply walk into a DSG store, pick the one with the shinest bezel and say yes, of COURSE I want a 10 year coverplan with that, that sounds spiffing. I bet they can be found at DFS every time there is a sale as well... They are economically foolish.

I'm sure they feel their purchases meet their needs and they are very happy with them, in just the same way that primative man was very happy with his new cave and how 17th century British people thought having a Horse was a really excellent way of crosscountry travel.

I don't think anyone means you literally do this, but if lots of people are telling you this is how you are, then perhaps their is a little truth to it?

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Of course there isn't - if I was assuming everyone had the same criteria to myself I'd be in every thread pointing out how much better a 5 year old BMW would be. Which I'll rarely, if ever, be found doing. I think I've discouraged more people from doing that than I've encouraged over the last 18 months! If I was using my critiera, a VW Golf would be so far down the list of suitable cars it wouldn't even enter my brain when typing, let alone make it into the post as it did in this thread ;)
 
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[TW]Fox;11812877 said:
I really can't understand why you miss the point - they dont go 'Well, the Fiesta and the Corsa are largely the same, so I think I'll just go with the nearest'. They simply walk into Vauxhall and buy the Corsa. They wouldnt know what the Fiesta offers or the Yaris or the Polo becuase they simply didnt bother to even check. THAT is my point!
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Where have you got this information from ? Just curious as I don't know anyone that has bought a car without test driving many similair cars.

It actually takes me 6 months of research etc before I even start to make the final decision based on test drives etc.
 
Dangerous Dave said:
Where have you got this information from ? Just curious as I don't know anyone that has bought a car without test driving many similair cars.
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You quite clearly have never met a woman.

Dangerous Dave said:
It actually takes me 6 months of research etc before I even start to make the final decision based on test drives etc.
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Thats your situation. You wouldnt be 'assuming' that everyone has the 'same criteria as you' now would you?
 
Hxc said:
What exactly posesses someone to buy a new corsa on finance? Honestly where is the logic in that?
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not everyone is reasonable, dear.

many many people will see a brand new car for £99 a month and before you know it, their signature is on the line.
 
Hxc said:
What exactly posesses someone to buy a new corsa on finance? Honestly where is the logic in that?
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Most people are halfwits when it comes to money, the monthly figure is all they see. How do you think so many companies such as "ocean finance" exist and do so well?
 
Dangerous Dave said:
True, the first comment from my grilfriend when she was test driving a 5 series touring (I did try) was the stereo was rubbish and she didn't like the steering wheel. She also discounted another car as the vanity mirror had no lights on it.
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my god, she actually made it to a test drive! Most women will decide there shortlist of 1 or 2 cars based entirely on looks or wether their friend has one and the seat was comfy.

For example, I had one friend whos critera for a new car were Diesel so it was cheap, and small and cute...

And a housemate, who after a month of telling her to have a look around, look at Focuses and Fiestas, went and spent £2k on a Punto because she liked her old one (which was 10 years and 2 models older).
 
[TW]Fox;11812877 said:
I really can't understand why you miss the point - they dont go 'Well, the Fiesta and the Corsa are largely the same, so I think I'll just go with the nearest'. They simply walk into Vauxhall and buy the Corsa. They wouldnt know what the Fiesta offers or the Yaris or the Polo becuase they simply didnt bother to even check. THAT is my point!
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It is no co-incidence that these are the same people who, when it comes to buying a TV, simply walk into a DSG store, pick the one with the shinest bezel
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Don't get me wrong, I can see exactly what you are saying, and personally, it makes practically no sense what-so-ever to me either... I'm as anal as the next person on here when it comes to 'personal' car choice..

But I've talked to people that appear as short sighted as you suggest, assuming, as you have, that they are ignorant to the truth etc, but from my experience, talking to them made me realise just how different people are.. TV's, or Cars, I actually admired the way that what was a 'huge' deal to me did not even register as relevant to them..

I am sure all your criteria, as mine is, has lots of 'technical' aspects on it, and for me, this is because I can differentiate and appreciate the differences these things make (by and large), obviously a lot of people can't appreciate these things, and so they just don't even consider them..

The missus could drive 10 cars and if asked about the drive and the handling, you wouldn't get anything more then, I like where the gear stick is in that car, and the clutch is nice and light on that one.. in the same way she can't 'see' any difference between our old SDTV and the new 1080p HDTV, and why she can't hear any improvement in the sound setup when I went from an all in one surround setup to dedicated seperates, except that it is 'louder'..

As for the whole finance thing, considering all cars are huge wastes of money, it's just degrees of 'wastes' in my book, the fact they get cars on finance is just a by-product of how much they are willing to spend, I know people who have very considered car choices that still finance themselves to the eye-balls, of course it's the worse way of doing things, finance on a new car is obviously not good, but buying any car is still going to be expensive, only sensible bangernomics is just about justifyable from a financial viewpoint..
 
i started learning to drive in a 1.2 corsa that was rubbish [goes without saying]
then i finished my tuition in an MG ZR
then i brought my own MG ZR ace car - nightmare to insure
then i have had 2 1.1 mk3 fiestas - both terrible but able to withstand a lot of abuse

i have had a go in an s2000 - which was brilliant apart from the gearbox
a golf gti which was great fun, a 3 series which was amazing
a merc m class which is my dads in paris, a volkswagen passat which sucked
a c2 vts, a c2 gt

and now i have a saxo which is the most fun to drive out of all of them and im not even lying or being biased
 
Mr_White said:
Right.
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To be fair a VTS or 106 GTI driven down a twisty country road is huge fun IMHO its amazing how well these little cars handle.

Different things make a car "fun" for people to drive though, I personally think the last thing you want on a public road is a RWD drifting round a corner or have the fear in the wet of the rear end steeping out however some drivers will find this fun, I personally would be ******* my pants.
 
Dangerous Dave said:
To be fair a VTS or 106 GTI driven down a twisty country road is huge fun IMHO its amazing how well these little cars handle.

Different things make a car "fun" for people to drive though, I personally think the last thing you want on a public road is a RWD drifting round a corner or have the fear in the wet of the rear end steeping out however some drivers will find this fun, I personally would be ******* my pants.
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If I drove an S2000 and a Sax/106 and knew I could only afford to run the 106/Sax then I'd still admit the S2000 was better, because it is :p
 
Dangerous Dave said:
To be fair a VTS or 106 GTI driven down a twisty country road is huge fun IMHO its amazing how well these little cars handle.

Different things make a car "fun" for people to drive though, I personally think the last thing you want on a public road is a RWD drifting round a corner or have the fear in the wet of the rear end steeping out however some drivers will find this fun, I personally would be ******* my pants.
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I agree that different things make a car fun for diferent people. Hell my fun car is a 280BHP Mk3 Astra that handles OK and is silly quick in a straight line.

S2000 only drift when you want them to. You can still hoof around town without fear of the back end stepping out. I'd say you've got more chance stacking the Saxo around town than an S2K.
 
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