Would you be bothered by a UK Porn block?

I agree this issue is foremost a parenting issue, its of course down to the parents to try and control what their kids can access and I do have controls built in on my home network, however, once out the house, with friends, on other wifi networks, on their mobile contract, its hard to police everything. I get this is all a bit nanny state, but on this occasion I would be fine with age verification, it at least would attempt to prevent minors accessing bad stuff (if they could impliment it in a way a VPN etc couldn't circumvent in seconds).
 
thebandit said:
I do have controls built in on my home network, however, once out the house, with friends, on other wifi networks, on their mobile contract, its hard to police everything.
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DoT or DoQ profile on the device pointed at your DNS server, optionally also a VPN with the same (you still need the profile for apps that bypass the userspace VPN). Then it doesn't matter whether they're on WiFi or cellular, and whose network it is - they're still filtered through you.
 
Don't see why the government would need to get involved, if I want to watch porn I should be able to without their intervention. Also wouldn't trust even the biggest of adult websites with a credit card or copy of my ID.
 
Rainmaker said:
My kids don't see any of that stuff, because...
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It's all well saying you do this and that (it's pretty impressive to be honest) but, for every parent that does the same there's hundreds of thousands that don't with their kids having fairly relaxed or zero restrictions on their devices (or restrictions that are trivial to bypass).
But as others have said, this is a parenting issue and should be left as such; forcing a safety blanket seems to suggest the government has little faith in the current standards of parenting. Although i wouldn't be surprised if it's just another push for further surveillance and no doubt the usual cries for backdoored "encryption" will soon follow if the law passes.
 
Female nudity should be enough, like the magazines of old.
I’m against porn, massively harmful IMO.
 
visibleman said:
It's all well saying you do this and that (it's pretty impressive to be honest) but, for every parent that does the same there's hundreds of thousands that don't with their kids having fairly relaxed or zero restrictions on their devices (or restrictions that are trivial to bypass).
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I can't answer for what other parents do or don't bother to do, but as we both agree legislating it isn't the answer. Plenty of parents let their kids play out late, feed them junk or let them swear and act like little hooligans. We don't need new laws against that, either. For those who aren't technologically literate, services like NextDNS and AdGuard Private DNS supply apps which achieve the same thing (force all DNS through the service, block whatever you choose to be blocked). Easy and cheap.
visibleman said:
But as others have said, this is a parenting issue and should be left as such; forcing a safety blanket seems to suggest the government has little faith in the current standards of parenting. Although i wouldn't be surprised if it's just another push for further surveillance and no doubt the usual cries for backdoored "encryption" will soon follow if the law passes.
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Ah they've been doing that for years, including heavily throughout this year. Won't someone think of the children? It's always phrased in such a way that either you agree with them 'backdooring' encryption (good luck with that lol), or else - well, what are you? A paedophile?
 
It doesn't take a genius to hazard a guess who are the sex starved drug takers on this forum ;) Some might even try and collate those who are eager to forfeit paying their energy bills... ;) Fascinating stuff.
 
Zenduri said:
Not sure if serious..... lol

So this thing called google exists and so do the letters p,o,r and n. If you combine those 2 elements you too will be drowning in pasty videos
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I can honestly say I've never typed that in to google, or any other search engine.

I thought google had a safe search function?
 
Rainmaker said:
I can't answer for what other parents do or don't bother to do, but as we both agree legislating it isn't the answer. Plenty of parents let their kids play out late, feed them junk or let them swear and act like little hooligans. We don't need new laws against that, either. For those who aren't technologically literate, services like NextDNS and AdGuard Private DNS supply apps which achieve the same thing (force all DNS through the service, block whatever you choose to be blocked). Easy and cheap.
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Yup and as you say there are already solutions available. Perhaps there should be a bigger push by these companies or for the government to (only) educate parents about services like this rather than force a solution on everyone that ultimately does diddly squat and can be circumvented.

Chris Wilson said:
It doesn't take a genius to hazard a guess who are the sex starved drug takers on this forum ;) Some might even try and collate those who are eager to forfeit paying their energy bills... ;) Fascinating stuff.
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Sounds like something the local church group punts :cry:
 
visibleman said:
Yup and as you say there are already solutions available. Perhaps there should be a bigger push by these companies or for the government to (only) educate parents about services like this rather than force a solution on everyone that ultimately does diddly squat and can be circumvented.
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LOL... They'd have to understand it, first! It wasn't long ago that posters were going out warning that if you see your kids using (variously) Tor, Linux or the command line they might be hackers and you should call the police, so that they can check. :cry:
 
Rainmaker said:
We do it in stages. Our 3 year old has supervised access to an iPad Pro, which we use to play educational games together etc. His older sister (just turned 6) is allowed onto YouTube (restricted mode) when in the same room as us and has more freedom to use the wider (filtered) Internet. Likewise for the eldest daughter (age 7), who is also further allowed to scroll through filtered videos and search things that interest her on DuckDuckGo (safe search enforced). My wife's 16 year old (who has Autism and isn't 16 in some ways) has gambling, drugs and porn blocked but otherwise can do what he likes - albeit on the understanding that (1) the VPN stays on and (2) what he does is logged locally, and subject to arbitrary review occasionally to ensure he's not up to something he shouldn't be.

It's a judgement call, but it's not that difficult. We've found that it unfolds rather naturally - 'Daaaaad, xyz won't work'. Why do you need xyz? OK, that's reasonable, I'll enable that for you (but not the younger ones) subject to supervision.


Are you accidentally connected to my kids' network, or leaving safe search enabled? :p There are so many sites out there your head would spin trying to count them. And that's fine - adults can do what they like and more power to them. But to say there aren't many actual porn sites is... not correct. :cry:
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Reviewing sounds excessive. I just let mine watch normal YouTube, they tell me if somethings scary/inappropriate or more commonly they'll just select another video. I dont typically monitor their usage as i trust them. They are 5 (almost 6) and 8. I'd guess that kids are only going to find porn when those hormones kick in, so I'm thinking teenagers. They see some adverts on gambling but it's irrelevant as they're not that impressionable (although if I could stop toy adverts I would :p ).
 
theone8181 said:
Reviewing sounds excessive.
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Did you miss the 'not 16 in the head' and 'Autistic' parts? He learned to cross a road alone safely, and go to the corner shop alone in the last two months, for context. (Edit to add): He had unfiltered access last year, age 15... Until some bloke on Discord (which he installed himself) told him to set up a PayPal business account and some other online accounts, and to send him the logins and his card details. Which he did, because his 'friend' had known him for 'weeks now' and was therefore 'trustworthy'. Damn straight he gets logged and monitored now, because he needs it. Parents in knowing best shocker. :p
theone8181 said:
I just let mine watch normal YouTube, they tell me if somethings scary/inappropriate or more commonly they'll just select another video. I dont typically monitor their usage as i trust them. They are 5 (almost 6) and 8. I'd guess that kids are only going to find porn when those hormones kick in, so I'm thinking teenagers. They see some adverts on gambling but it's irrelevant as they're not that impressionable (although if I could stop toy adverts I would :p ).
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Every parent makes their own judgement calls. For me, I wouldn't trust my 5 year old to have the capacity to know what was or was not inappropriate - that's my job as their parent. Not everything kids shouldn't see shouts 'Boo' and makes them afraid. Some things (and people) are much more nefarious. As for ads - why are there any on your network at all? For maximum nerd points (and protection for your devices, your family and your sanity), set up a PiHole, AdGuard Home, Unbound with blocklists, or install apps like AdGuard. Job jobbed.
 
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