XBOX ONE Official Thread

deej · 12 Jun 2013 at 23:03

We saw the initialPR show on Spikeand the Xbox has one thing. The mrs deej yes factor. She loves the voice commands and gestures to control the TV and such. So much so that she's even thinking of pre-ordering, even after hearing the launch price of $499 + tax ($565 total).

We may have to get both...

jimjamuk · 12 Jun 2013 at 23:34

sja360 said:
I personally thought 24 hrs is a bot short. Why not make it a week?

Rumour was that it really was going to be "always online" until the Internet went mad over it. MS then moved that out to 24 hours and now they can say its not "always online".

I've got a pretty good internet connection but now and then I lose it for maybe an hour or two - generally late in the evenings when I presume they are doing maintenance work. But does the box check in at a certain time every day because if my connection went down (or more normally go from an 80Mbps pipe to a 0.1Mbps pipe) for an hour 24 hours after the last check that means I cannot play it? Peoples internet is fairly reliable in this country but some people do have issues with their providers during peak hours or if a bandwidth cap kicks in

Murray · 12 Jun 2013 at 23:36

I'd like to think that it'd be 24 hours since you last went offline.

jimjamuk · 12 Jun 2013 at 23:40

so it would be always online until you turned it off (but its not really off) thats the confusing bit as the machine is meant to be left on (albeit in a lower power state) all the time and always connected

Murray · 12 Jun 2013 at 23:42

What I mean is that if you are say currently signed into Xbox Live when your internet goes down then it should hopefully only need to check 24 hours after that point. Rather than it checking at 6pm every day.

jimjamuk · 12 Jun 2013 at 23:48

Yes so thats my point - if it checks lets say at 11pm when I log off an go to bed but the next night I come in from the pub and at 11.30pm fire it up and Virgin/BT have decided that night they want to offer me 100k down and next to nothing up - I'm screwed?

What I'm saying is that the Internet might not actually be down but almost unusable (as it normally pans out) and it may only happen for an hour but if it is in the hour I want to play then its not going to happen?

Lots of people keep saying about loosing the Internet for days - but that almost never happens (maybe once every couple of years if you are lucky) but when it just plays up for an hour here or there is when it could catch you out

Murray · 12 Jun 2013 at 23:53

I think it would probably want to check, hopefully it won't need much bandwidth to do that though and you could still play with terribly slow internet.

jimjamuk · 13 Jun 2013 at 00:05

Murray said:
I think it would probably want to check, hopefully it won't need much bandwidth to do that though and you could still play with terribly slow internet.

yes the devil is in the detail and MS have come out with a minimum bandwidth of 1.5Mbps for the Xbone. I know when my connection "goes slow" its a lot less than that

m4rk84 · 13 Jun 2013 at 00:13

jimjamuk said:
yes the devil is in the detail and MS have come out with a minimum bandwidth of 1.5Mbps for the Xbone. I know when my connection "goes slow" its a lot less than that

I imagine the 1.5Mbps is aimed more at multiplayer. I can't imagine the daily authorisation would take more then a small amount of bandwidth that would only last a few seconds then be back to normal.

If I were opting for the Xbox One I would be more worried about Microsofts servers going down or faulty at the wrong time. Nobody expects these things to happen however the truth is even for massive companies this can happen. Ask Blizzard how online worked for Diablo 3.

413x · 13 Jun 2013 at 00:14

This figure will be important for many

Is it what is required for multi player

Or is it a requirement for use?

ic1male · 13 Jun 2013 at 00:15

1.5Mbps sounds more like what you'll need when games need to go out to the cloud for processing.

And what's to say MS will not come under big DDOS attacks for this DRM stance.

413x · 13 Jun 2013 at 00:17

ic1male said:
1.5Mbps sounds more like what you'll need when games need to go out to the cloud for processing.

And what's to say MS will not come under big DDOS attacks for this DRM stance.

Beyond my Internet bandwidth

jimjamuk · 13 Jun 2013 at 00:18

its stated as the minimum (otherwise go buy a 360 says Don)

I know to have a "certified experience" i.e for it to work properly the 360 required 3Mbps down and 5Mbps(!) up with a max ping of 150ms. More cloud stuff is just to mean more bandwidth but I havent seen the recommended numbers yet

jimjamuk · 13 Jun 2013 at 00:22

Yes just read on another site as well - its a minimum to function - I guess multiplayer gaming will be on top of this?

"Well, it seems another knock to the Xbox One’s internet plan just arose, as Jim Sterling, the review editor for Destructoid, reported that the Xbox One will require a 1.5mbps download speed in order to function."

m4rk84 · 13 Jun 2013 at 00:25

jimjamuk said:
Yes just read on another site as well - its a minimum to function - I guess multiplayer gaming will be on top of this?

"Well, it seems another knock to the Xbox One’s internet plan just arose, as Jim Sterling, the review editor for Destructoid, reported that the Xbox One will require a 1.5mbps download speed in order to function."

If that really is the case I'm shocked... even for single player?

What's the point in once every 24 hour authorisation if you need an internet connection of 1.5mbps 100% of the time?

Surely it must be wrong? If not why is everyone not raging even more at this?

Tummy · 13 Jun 2013 at 00:38

So, when the xbox one is connected to the internet it will require a minimum connection of 1.5mbps?

Davey_Pitch · 13 Jun 2013 at 00:51

m4rk84 said:
Surely it must be wrong? If not why is everyone not raging even more at this?

The Internet is probably collectively raged out and has no more rage to spare

To be fair though, until we get official word from MS on the required speed etc, it's just speculation. We can rage if it becomes fact.

ps3ud0 · 13 Jun 2013 at 00:59

Quick question - if you are playing a MP title that requires cloud processing, will that affect your ping? Can you switch off cloud processing if it does?

I remember the good old days of Q3 where you pretty much disabled all the pretty graphics if you wanted to be anywhere near competitive.

ps3ud0 :cool:

Murray · 13 Jun 2013 at 01:02

My connection can get up to 2.0mb/s at good times...

1.5mb/s at all times isn't something I could rely on having tbh. Surely that can't be right? Most people in America have really slow internet along with Canada.

McPhee · 13 Jun 2013 at 02:06

Surely it's a minimum requirement for optimal performance? Would they really flash up a message saying "sorry, but your internet isn't fast enough to use this console that you just spent £500 on. And no, the shop won't accept a return on it now you've opened it. Haha."

jimjamuk said:
Yes so thats my point - if it checks lets say at 11pm when I log off an go to bed but the next night I come in from the pub and at 11.30pm fire it up and Virgin/BT have decided that night they want to offer me 100k down and next to nothing up - I'm screwed?

What I'm saying is that the Internet might not actually be down but almost unusable (as it normally pans out) and it may only happen for an hour but if it is in the hour I want to play then its not going to happen?

Lots of people keep saying about loosing the Internet for days - but that almost never happens (maybe once every couple of years if you are lucky) but when it just plays up for an hour here or there is when it could catch you out

It pings the server throughout the day, while in standby. More than 24 hours with no ping = no games.

ic1male said:
And what's to say MS will not come under big DDOS attacks for this DRM stance.

That would be true to form for those Anonymous morons. 'We don't like this, let's DDOS'. 'Oh, it's annoyed and inconvenienced tens of thousands of people without actually causing the evil corporation any serious hurt. Oh well, all wars have casualties.'

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