**XBOX ONE** Official Thread

Glaucus said:
Troops on deployment is a niche market, a very vocal market though, especially with te emotion thing bring out and they aren't even a lost market, as they will still own consoles at home.
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Really? Won't they just get their PS4 for both?

Also ignore enough of these 'niche' markets and well you get the abomination of a reveal they did :)
 
Tummy said:
It's interesting that the Kinect is such a big deal for you, it's one of the main reasons I didn't want the new xbox.
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Controlling a HTPC which is pretty much every device in the lounge now, is a down right pain with a remote these days. They've got to complicated and the remotes haven't kept up, the only other sensible solution is a small keyboard, but for me that again has pretty big draw backs. Voice recognition is what i want, maybe with wavy arm controll as wel, but if voice controll is spot on wouldn't even need that.

I'm also a bit of a tech head, I can see(not litteraly as devloepers will find many odd and exciting ways to use it) the benefits of kinect, but you need the I sall base. It's why I also hate exclusivity delad and perpiatry connections(unless it fulfills a real need that isn't catered for in existing standards), imagine if something like kinect came out that could be plugged into multiple platforms, then developers really would jump on it.
 
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Glaucus said:
Controlling a HTPC which is pretty much every device in the lounge now, is a down right pain with a remote these days. They've got to complicated and the remotes haven't kept up, the only other sensible solution is a small keyboard, but for me that again has pretty big draw backs. Voice recognition is what i want, maybe with wavy arm controll as wel, but if voice controll is spot on wouldn't even need that.
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Touch screen interface with Kinect technology = Minority Report goodness.
 
My personal position in regards to Microsoft during the later half of the 360s cycle was the sheer amount of focus on social games and such.

It doesn't breed much confidence that they wont do so again, it was just embarrassing to see last years E3.
 
I don't struggle with remotes.

Ever thought that you're the niche market Glaucus? & that the majority of people do not want these features? :).
 
Glaucus said:
Controlling a HTPC which is pretty much every device in the lounge now, is a down right pain with a remote these days. They've got to complicated and the remotes haven't kept up, the only other sensible solution is a small keyboard, but for me that again has pretty big draw backs. Voice recognition is what i want, maybe with wavy arm controll as wel, but if voice controll is spot on wouldn't even need that.
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Sky+ iPad app tells me otherwise.

In fact, tablets in general make awesome remotes. I also don't need to wait there for 5 seconds speaking and waiting another 5 seconds to find out if it actually understood what I just said :)
 
Skyboat said:
Sky+ iPad app tells me otherwise.
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It's good for a very limited amount of things.
That's not to say a better more general app couldn't be made though.


Tummy said:
Ever thought that you're the niche market Glaucus? & that the majority of people do not want these features? :).
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For many things I am a niche market. It doesn't always end up that way though. Most people thought ipad was a niche market when it was announced and I was singing its praises. See how that's turned out. By no means does everything come of like that. But there's far to many people who can't imagine the possibilities, but actually when thrusted on them quickly grab onto it.

I think xbone would have been similar once a few of your friends had it and the benefits it would have changed a lot of opinions, just a shame they never hit an acceptable pre-order. Xbone was a longterm console, ps4 is a here and now console and will likely struggle in the later lifespan.
 
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Why wouldn't you want voice/motion control?

Kinect as it is today works well in making the system easier to use.

I can be on my xbox, walk out of the room - when I come back the kinect detects me, the screen lights up and it recognises who I am. I can then browse the dashboard without picking up the controller.

Why WOULDN'T you want to be able to do that?
 
Chadd said:
Assuming Microsoft have kept the feature where you can play one game and matchmake for another at the same time, you will have to buy digital in order for this to work due to having to swap discs if you don't.
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Does anyone think this will actually still be possible?

I have asked Xbox Support and they don't know.
 
Tummy said:
Glaucus?
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Glaucus said:
It's good for a very limited amount of things.
That's not to say a better more general app couldn't be made though.



For many things I am a niche market. It doesn't always end up that way though. Most people thought ipad was a niche market when it was announced and I was singing its praises. See how that's turned out. By no means does everything come of like that. But there's far to many people who can't imagine the possibilities, but actually when thrusted on them quickly grab onto it.

I think xbone would have been similar once a few of your friends had it and the benefits it would have changed a lot of opinions, just a shame they never hit an acceptable pre-order. Xbone was a longterm console, ps4 is a here and now console and will likely struggle in the later lifespan.
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As they've said a digital copy will work like a physical copy once it's downloaded and installed I think you can kiss goodbye to any of the digital announcements.
 
Glaucus said:
It's good for a very limited amount of things.
That's not to say a better more general app couldn't be made though.
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For TV watching it does everything I could ever possibly need. I have Plex for my films/boxsets and my PS3 is only 3 button presses away for games and Blu-ray films.

So yeah I can see the appeal for a unified system, but at the moment I only ever have to pick up 3 devices and each suited to their specific purposes a lot better than I feel Kinect would be.
 
ps3ud0 said:
I dont particularly disagree, I think this thread shows the limit of most people understanding on non-tangible topics or the ability to produce a reasoned well argued position. Its unfortunate that the majority rules but that is what we are left with beyond the scope of this discussion. Its a 'necessary evil' that wont change within our lifetimes...

I do think that MS are far more to blame though as what they presented was embarrassing for a multinational and because it was a paradiagm shift it was their onus to present such features and advantages as real 'average joe' benefits rather than allowing the public to ruminate how it could work, that dissemination of their message was their downfall in the end.

Its not like MS wouldnt be aware of what we already understand when it comes to public opinion, simply put people dont like change. Though as an aside I do believe in social conscience, so I am impressed that some might have seen beyond their requirements and how these changes might significantly impact others.

ps3ud0 :cool:
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Completely agree. MS do have to shoulder some of the blame for not really getting all the information together before announcing it. I do wish they'd gone about it slightly differently as I truly appreciate what they wanted to do and can only see positives if it was executed correctly. Their biggest mistake was being so candid with the information and of course, naively expecting the general populace to understand.

It could be argued that they assumed a certain level of reasoning and problem solving but that may have been asking too much.
 
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