**XBOX ONE** Official Thread

Macro said:
Hmm, dunno - it sounds more likely they weren't confident of being able to get 8GB of DDR5 so went for a safer plan. If PS4 had have ended up limited to 2 or 4GB of DDR all other things may have balanced out.

Sounds like Sony got lucky which in business is sometimes all you need :)
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They could have got it but pricing was uncertain. It's GDDR5, which is specialist high bandwidth graphics memory. MS estimated they could put 8GB of very fast DDR3 in (with SRAM buffer) for the same cost of 4GB GDDR5, and that the extra capacity would be of more benefit long term.

One of the reasons that the PS3 remained so expensive was the cost of the memory - some later development of RAMBUS if memory serves. Sony bet wrong that time, got lucky this time.
 
They needed 8GB RAM because of what they wanted to do aside from gaming, its why features like snap mode and multi-tasking work as they are all resident in memory while you are gaming. It was always the way MS was gonna go, just what flavour of RAM that might have been debatable. I doubt anyone saw Sony jumping up to 8GB GDDR5, I still dont get why they did it, makes the PS4 more expensive :(

ps3ud0 :cool:
 
Dimi said:
If the comparison between both on Anandtech is legit.

Colour me surprised, to me it seems like Sony are throwing the kitchen sink this time round. Almost everything is in their favour. Where as Microsoft are skimping on specs.

We're not going to get a similar situation of last time round either, both are easy to develop for.
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Kitchen sink won't help in the beginning - we won't know it's full potential for years, by which time the extra graphics power will be relatively insignificant compared to the Radeon 4K 3900 series.

Compare Forza 2 (2007) vs Forza 4 (2011). FM2 was launched 18 months in to the 360 cycle. T10 found masses of extra potential in the same hardware platform in 4 years.
 
MagicBoy said:
Kitchen sink won't help in the beginning - we won't know it's full potential for years, by which time the extra graphics power will be relatively insignificant compared to the Radeon 4K 3900 series.

Compare Forza 2 (2007) vs Forza 4 (2011). FM2 was launched 18 months in to the 360 cycle. T10 found masses of extra potential in the same hardware platform in 4 years.
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Forza 2 & 3 were both 60fps whereas Forza 4 was 30fps, they halved the frame-rate that's all.
 
I was just reading( more like wadding through arguments ) about the internet connection requirements and some people are saying it will need to connect daily to stay functional?

That can't be, can it?
 
mmj_uk said:
Forza 2 & 3 were both 60fps whereas Forza 4 was 30fps, they halved the frame-rate that's all.
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You couldn't be more wrong.

http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/digitalfoundry-tech-analysis-forza-motorsport-4 said:
There are no major surprises from Forza 4 in terms of the performance - Turn 10 has always targeted a locked 60 frames per second with v-sync engaged, and the new game is no exception to the rule. Below, in our first 60FPS streaming video, we demonstrate a selected montage of action from six different races. The idea here is to give the in-game engine a bit of a workout by switching between views, causing a few crashes and seeing if anything at all will cause that frame-rate to take a hit.
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ps3ud0 said:
They needed 8GB RAM because of what they wanted to do aside from gaming, its why features like snap mode and multi-tasking work as they are all resident in memory while you are gaming. It was always the way MS was gonna go, just what flavour of RAM that might have been debatable. I doubt anyone saw Sony jumping up to 8GB GDDR5, I still dont get why they did it, makes the PS4 more expensive :(

ps3ud0 :cool:
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I'd rather they plan for the future than skimp now and regret it later. Hopefully the fact they've gone for what is a relatively cheap CPU/GPU will keep the cost pretty reasonable. Blu-ray drives have gone way down in price too which should keep it away from being anywhere close to PS3 launch prices :p.
 
Ok, I have a question for you all, especially those that have said they will dump XBOX now for PS4 as you want gaming first. If everything else stays the same, what would your reaction be if either at E3 of before release they announced illumiroom add on for Xbox for say, £120?

It's not a loaded question and who knows, I was just pondering if MS have really have cocked up the hardware thing, and if they have on face value, is it because in part they have something else up their sleeves?

Would that potentially change perception for gamers?
 
@msmalls74 That guy is actually huge !

Also was I the only one that watched that XO highlight reel and at the end when they kept saying Call of Duty, heard Call of doody ? :p
 
Macro said:
Ok, I have a question for you all, especially those that have said they will dump XBOX now for PS4 as you want gaming first. If everything else stays the same, what would your reaction be if either at E3 of before release they announced illumiroom add on for Xbox for say, £120?

It's not a loaded question and who knows, I was just pondering if MS have really have cocked up the hardware thing, and if they have on face value, is it because in part they have something else up their sleeves?

Would that potentially change perception for gamers?
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Illumiroom changes nothing for me. It's another gimmick ;)
 
jigger said:
I was just reading( more like wadding through arguments ) about the internet connection requirements and some people are saying it will need to connect daily to stay functional?

That can't be, can it?
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The camera with a mic needs to be attached and the machine needs to be connected to the internet.....

That does not creep me out one bit.

Nope.
 
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