**XBOX ONE** Official Thread

I love my 360 but if PS4 has no charges for used games (I'm big on buying used/renting) then it's a no brainer for me. Unfortunately, I can see PS4 using somnething similar.
 
I've gotta agree with that. But with talk of this online service being offered that could improve single player games, can you see that being free?

Can you imagine the cost of keeping the machines up and running that do the cloud processing? You think it'd be offered free?

But I do agree charging XBL gold for single player sounds infeasible. So under the same guise I think it's making this cloud processing sound a bit like a pipe dream. Something thats possible, but not really practical.
I genuinely think the cloud compute stuff will be a Xbox Live silver (free) thing. For it to be effective for devs they have to be able to assume everyone will have it so they can code against a consistent environment. It may cost for back end infrastructure but MS already have most of that from Azure. This lets them get an early start on cloud compute for gaming and potentially gets more people signed up to XBL with the possibility to then tempt them to buy games/films etc online.

The Azure cloud compute stuff already is in use for enterprise customers, both from MS and Amazon etc.
 
I genuinely think the cloud compute stuff will be a Xbox Live silver (free) thing. For it to be effective for devs they have to be able to assume everyone will have it so they can code against a consistent environment. It may cost for back end infrastructure but MS already have most of that from Azure. This lets them get an early start on cloud compute for gaming and potentially gets more people signed up to XBL with the possibility to then tempt them to buy games/films etc online.

The Azure cloud compute stuff already is in use for enterprise customers, both from MS and Amazon etc.
For the fact you can play a single player game offline within the current connection structure already removes that 'consistent environment' for devs so they have to code for non-cloud assistance.

Also just because you can connect to XBL still doesnt mean you have an adequate connection for things like cloud computing. Its those types of assumptions that are higher priority than devs assuming that everyone that buys their game is automatically given access to cloud computing. Its not that simple with such possible external factors so I dont see how differentiating cloud gaming by XBL level makes any more difference.

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Its not that simple with such possible external factors so I dont see how differentiating cloud gaming by XBL level makes any more difference.
I suppose if you work from the point of view that they want cloud computation to work (otherwise why bother in the first place) you want to make sure it's as consistently available as possible.

If people don't have any kind of internet connection then there's not much you can do about it. You can reduce fragmentation if you make sure it's a no additional cost option however by making it Xbox silver.

MS could regard it as a loss leader much like MS & Sony subsidise hardware costs initially to get market share. Particularly if it then boosts XBL subscriber numbers and allows some revenue through game/film/Pay to view event type transactions even if those subscribers stay on free Silver level.

Who knows though? Well find out in due course I suppose.
 
I'm not surprised, the article is pants.

It starts by saying "an unnamed source says the second hand fee will be £35, although it's not known if that is in addition to the sticker price" (Yeah, so second hand games more expensive than new? :rolleyes:)

and ends up with..

[UPDATE 2] Sources have told Polygon that the Xbox One will not require gamers pay an activation fee to play used games, but will mandate regular checks to verify the authenticity of games.

Might as well post an article claiming "an unnamed source" has said the Xbox second hand games will cost chocolate coins and only be playable by people named Mr Spoon.
 
Might as well post an article claiming "an unnamed source" has said the Xbox second hand games will cost chocolate coins and only be playable by people named Mr Spoon.

That sentence actually made me lol.
In fairness I think MS are living on Button Moon with some of the decisions they've made for this console.
 
In fairness I think MS are living on Button Moon with some of the decisions they've made for this console.

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I hope they get utterly panned this gen for the decisions for the xbone and that's from an xbox 360 user from day 1 and I've not been near a Sony since F1 97.
 
I'm hoping for the same also. I don't think MS realise we're in a recession, and when I buy a games console I want it for games, I don't want crap slowing it down and making it 33% slower than a ps4!
 
That youtube highlight is basically all I got from the reveal. It pretty much confirmed my thoughts that the PS4 was pitched at gamers.

Yes and no, there is a requirement for some media capabilities, you only have to look at the popularity of XBMC to see that there are a subset of users who want that from their xbox..
Happy to wait for E3 before I decide..
 
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I hope they get utterly panned this gen for the decisions for the xbone and that's from an xbox 360 user from day 1 and I've not been near a Sony since F1 97.

I'm hoping for the same also. I don't think MS realise we're in a recession, and when I buy a games console I want it for games, I don't want crap slowing it down and making it 33% slower than a ps4!

I feel exactly the same. I really do like my 360 but MS seem to be veering away from games. Watch the new episode of Annoyed Gamer on Game Trailers and he pretty much sums up how I feel.
Even if MS show games at E3 I still think I'll get a PS4 as I feel Sony is more interested in games than MS.
 
On a serious note people should be very disturbed by the presentation. If microsoft have there own way within a very short time (years) we'll be having unskippable ingame commercial breaks and in between map changes. I don't think many people have realised the direction microsoft is taking 'gaming' by merging it with mainstream corporate media.

As for the always on Kinnect, the camera can read your heartbeat and body temperature (emotional reactions) and can monitor your reactions to commercials, political speeches that can sold to data miners and advertisers. Why you think there so many tv features in the new game console. It's one step closer to Orwells 1984
 
On a serious note people should be very disturbed by the presentation. If microsoft have there own way within a very short time (years) we'll be having unskippable ingame commercial breaks and in between map changes. I don't think many people have realised the direction microsoft is taking 'gaming' by merging it with mainstream corporate media.

As for the always on Kinnect, the camera can read your heartbeat and body temperature (emotional reactions) and can monitor your reactions to commercials, political speeches that can sold to data miners and advertisers. Why you think there so many tv features in the new game console. It's one step closer to Orwells 1984

More of a mix between Huxley and Orwell. Monitored and controlled, while at the time same having so much random and useless information blasted at us it blocks out anything relevant.
 
Hopefully if kinect can read my heart rate and other vital signals it will dashboard for me in cod when I keep getting BS deaths due to next gen lag comp.
 
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