Poll: *** Xbox Series X|S - General Discussion Thread ***

Which will you buy?

  • Series X

    Votes: 534 59.5%

  • Series S

    Votes: 105 11.7%

  • Not interested

    Votes: 234 26.1%

  • Both

    Votes: 25 2.8%
  • Total voters
    898
I think everyone has totally differing opinions on Game Pass. :D For me, on PC it is just totally "meh" but looking at the Xbox list, I'd be like a kid in a sweet shop, mainly because of all the Xbox 360 games that aren't on PC.

Fable trilogy, all the Gears games, all the old Rare games like Kameo and Viva Pinata, Nier Automata, Quantum Break, none of them are on PC game pass off the top of my head. Then you get EA Play without having to faff about with Origin.

I'm really looking forward to playing a metric tonne of games because I'm going to be going for all those achievements. I've got a fresh new gamertag with 0 achievement score which I'm going to build up. At my ripe old age, such things shouldn't really be of concern but I love trophies on PS3/4. And I've got some catching up to beat my nephews' scores. :D
 
Noxia said:
Tried Fable anniversary on OPC but it didn't hold up well. Are the console ones upgraded with the 4k thingy? TBH it was more the controls that irked me.

Edit: I forgot about the EA bit.
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Yeah, I think all of Microsoft's first party games are Xbox One X enhanced to 4K. Maybe I'm looking at things through rose-tinted specs conjuring up good memories of the Xbox 360 days and things will actually be really rubbish after being used to more modern games. I dunno.
 
Puzzled said:
Word of warning to those hoping to play a game on the xbox and then continue on the pc, only a few games support cloud save. A plagues tale for example doesnt sync saves between pc and console.

First party games with play anywhere do but games listed separately on gamepass as "for windows" dont. At least on the ones I've tried anyway.
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Ah! So "Cloud Enabled" on a game page doesn't mean cloud save games between PC and Xbox, it means available to play on Android via streaming. "Xbox Play Anywhere" is the label you want to look out for, if you want to hop between PC and Xbox, such as on Resident Evil VII. Right now, there are 76 of these games. That feature never really took off, did it? :p

Does the Xbox still give you free cloud saves for every single game on the system? So you never have to worry about backing up your saves manually?
 
I'm not expecting a great deal. It would nice to have some stats like how long does it take to boot up from cold to the point you can use it. How much disk space is available when you first get it home, etc.
 
I obviously know nothing about the engineering on the Xbox but these load times ARE way longer than I was expecting. I guess all these older titles are still using either legacy DirectX filesystem APIs or the emulator is limited transfer speed some way. How on earth can it otherwise take 37 seconds to load in a maximum of 512MB (which is what Alan Wake could use in total)???

EDIT: Just realized the Ars.Tech tests include loading a save file rather than just to the title screen of a game. That is actually a big improvement then.
 
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gord said:
The Alan Wake charts make me think it was actually a fairly well coded game to start with, it's the smallest percentage improvement. Whether that's the bottleneck or there's other limitations stopping it, the other titles clearly show much bigger improvements are feasible. I don't know how you can't be impressed by those improvements. This does raise a new dilemma though, I've been conditioned for years to go and make a cup of tea or put the bin out while I wait for loading screens. Now I'll actually have to play my game..
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Yeah, I was really underestimating just how long it takes. When I tried Borderlands 3 on my SATA SSD on PC with a stopwatch, it took more than 2 minutes before I could start playing. The XSX does it in 56 seconds according to Ars Technica.
 
Digital Foundry vid. I'm a bit disappointed in some of the results, that the XSX still cannot get a solid 4K60 in some titles. OK, it might only dip 10 fps here and there but I can't help think this shouldn't be happening at all.

 
BlizzardX said:
So apparently the useable space of the 1tb drive in the series X is ~800GB; any one seen this? I presume if this is this case, this would be a combination of formatted drive size from the 1TB, OS and perhaps storage for quick resume?
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Yes, 1TB always formats to around 930GB when partitioned. 40GB is the supposed size for the Quick Resume partition. So then you've got 930-40-802 = 88GB for the OS and other partitions like recovery or some such. Probably one as a temporary area for screen captures? I know the Xbox One has a multitude of them.

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jamesy505 said:
The thing is, if MS can get games released years ago looking better and with increased FPS, there isnt really a need for remasters. So I think what they are doing is the opposite of remasters. I think :)
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The missing thing I would say is the textures. If they can find a way to enhance the old textures with AI and make them look as if they are 4K, that would be the icing on the cake. A game from 2009 is still going to look pretty rubbish at 4K60 if the textures aren't up to scratch.
 
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