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[YAMT] British Juror Arrested After Listening To Music Under Hijab
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Ulfhedjinn said:
No i dont actually, seeing as last week my mom was in court under jury duty and said she met a lot of muslim women who were wearing hijaabs etc. Although one was wearing the veil but she was told to take it off which shock..horror she did
Good on her in my opinion.Spawn said:No i dont actually, seeing as last week my mom was in court under jury duty and said she met a lot of muslim women who were wearing hijaabs etc. Although one was wearing the veil but she was told to take it off which shock..horror she did
But, unfortunately, with the sheer number of British Muslims who seem to throw their dummy out of their pram about this, I think it's an issue. 
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so much for everyone gettin on with each other 
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@ Spawn why do you think it is a non-issue?!!!
A man could have been falsely convicted of murder and a muslim woman following non-british values could have caused that, that is an issue and I hope no PC brigadiers come to help her and she gets about 5 years in jail, forced not to wear her head dress as punishment, the arrogant ******!!!
A man could have been falsely convicted of murder and a muslim woman following non-british values could have caused that, that is an issue and I hope no PC brigadiers come to help her and she gets about 5 years in jail, forced not to wear her head dress as punishment, the arrogant ******!!!
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What do you mean following non-british values? She was listenining to her ipod while she was supposed to be paying attention. It's not exactly unheard of for British people to do similar things. It's a non-issue that she's a muslim. The only difference that makes is that it was slightly easier to conceal her mp3 player.Van_Dammesque said:
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The fact she was wearing a headdress is not british, if you say it is please explain the origins in terms of the UK's history?!Psyk said:
In court? Please tell me a story of similar circumstances.
Also could I wear one? Could I wear a baseball cap in court without the judge telling me to take it off?
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You took the words straight out of my mouth there!Psyk said:
The fact that she's a Muslim is 100% irrelevant. And what on Earth does 'non-british values' refer to?
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Wearing foreign headgear does not constitute a non-British value. It's just an item of clothing. It may be popular among Muslims, but that's still irrelevant.Van_Dammesque said:
The problem here is that she was listening to music, not that she's a Muslim.
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Like removing your head gear if you go into schools, churches, banks, COURTROOMS etc....Inquisitor said:
Like I said could I wear a cap in any of those places without being told to take it off?
Or are we living in a religious apartheid?
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I agree that she shouldn't have been allowed to wear it and that it's wrong that Muslim (and other religions to some extent) should command so much respect. However, that's nothing to do with her.Van_Dammesque said:
It's just annoying to see people rant and rave about the 'PC brigade' when this clearly has nothing to do with PC at all.
Like I said, she was in the wrong because she was listening to music.
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She could effectively listen to music without being caught, she knew her head dress would not be removed unlike if I were to conceal headphones with similar attirement, I would be asked to take it off she wouldn't, that is the PC part.Inquisitor said:
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Do rabbits in turbans whilst on jury service prevent crucial evidence being heard?SunaseIPs said:
if they distract the guy while he should be listening to the case then, yes they do.Van_Dammesque said:Do rabbits in turbans whilst on jury service prevent crucial evidence being heard?
comeon, it's quite hard to balanace a rabbit on your head
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But the fact that she was wearing a headdress isn't really the point. The point is she was listening to music. That's hardly an alien thing to our culture.Van_Dammesque said:
I don't know of any stories that specific, but it's hardly inconcievable that a British person would do something similar. Unless it's written in the Quran somewhere that muslims must listen to Shakira while in court.Van_Dammesque said:
Well that's a fair point I suppose. Maybe she shouldn't have been allowed to wear the headdress but it's a pretty separate issue from listening to music.Van_Dammesque said:
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Late joining on this but from the news story the girl was young.
Im not defending her actions, she should get punished. Fair enough.
But look at all the behind closed door racism from some members, such "send her back (or even to jail/prison)
The reason its such a shocker is because of preconceptions of people of this faith, didnt see it coming! You (aimed at no one in particular) reckon because she is Muslim she would not dare do such a thing.
IMHO she is young and did something stupid, faith shouldnt be an aspect of this at all.
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Im not defending her actions, she should get punished. Fair enough.
But look at all the behind closed door racism from some members, such "send her back (or even to jail/prison)
The reason its such a shocker is because of preconceptions of people of this faith, didnt see it coming! You (aimed at no one in particular) reckon because she is Muslim she would not dare do such a thing.
IMHO she is young and did something stupid, faith shouldnt be an aspect of this at all.
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Surfer said:it justs shows how much respect she had for being on the jury and British values i guess......
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What are your British Values?
Shes obvously British as she is serving on the Jury!!!!!!