[YAMT] British Juror Arrested After Listening To Music Under Hijab

ChemicalKicks said:
Listen I dont expect you to start looking up new words to impress me (or yourself)
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It simply means being sexist, hateful and oppressive of women.

You took a bite out of the apple so continue with your original line please "send her home" I think w should send you home! Maybe someone where you'd fit in.
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No I insist you take a bite and quote me where I said "send her home"!

tell me how wearing the head scarf is not tradition.
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It is not traditional for islamic headwear to be worn in the UK, read history books if you cannot grasp that point.
 
Didnt actually read your post now that I just have,

You dont support the Queen. OMG someone call security we have a terorist.

You've actually just killed me with this ha ha some much for your strong views of traditional British Values. LOL :p
 
ChemicalKicks said:
Oh hello, Still timing you BTW too long, you really had to think about that did you?

Anyway dont try and present your argument as your own, its not!

Now earlier I mentioned sending you back to somewhere that you would fit in, I figured it out a small closed square box. You would fit very nicely me thinks.

Just rememeber that one day someone will pick fault with you, or maybe where your from or what you believe and I dont think you will have the same attitude.

I find your VIEWS pathetic and I cant believe Im hearing it on this forum, how did you end up like this?

And yet still your trying to mask your Racism, now your sliding away from using Muslim and instead focusing on head scarf.

FOLLOW YOUR POINT THROUGH dont back away from lovely send em back it says so much for you!
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Oh my, you have made my day, I was starting to get serious and irate but his post has made fall about laughing! :D :D

If it is not my argument then who's argument is it? Maybe you should time them instead!
 
To be honst I was waiting for your next reply to say we have a difference of opionion although I am obviosly right (which you know deep down)

I'm not going to change your mind so I will politely step away from the argument.

However with out any insults, the issue of this whole thread she be treated like the Homer wearing glasses incident. The fact that she was listening to music is disgusting in a court of the UK. Wearing a headscarf obviously made it easy for her to do this but its not her fault that she was allowed to wear it.

She did not do it to undermine UK, Britian, Queen and evrything great and beer like, she did it because she was imature and bored and didnt know any better.

Anyway Van_Dammesque look forward to your non racist reply. :)
 
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ChemicalKicks said:
To be honst I was waiting for your next reply to say we have a difference of opionion although I am obviosly right (which you know deep down)
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Of course, the "islam" way is ALWAYS right, deep down we all know it! :rolleyes:

I'm not going to change your mind so I will politely step away from the argument.
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You could if your arguments were constructive and logically presented, such as answer how a muslim can wear headscarves in court and non-muslims cannot (presumably so they cannot do things like this incident has shown).

However with out any insults,
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May I be allowed out of my black little box to respond, it get cramped in here.

the issue of this whole thread she be treated like the Homer wearing glasses incident. The fact that she was listening to music is disgusting in a court of the UK. Wearing a headscarf obviously made it easy for her to do this but its not her fault that she was allowed to wear it.
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So now you are agreeing with me that she should not have been allowed to wear it since other non-muslims are not allowed?

She did not do it to undermine UK, British, Queen and evrything great and beer like, she did it because she was imature and bored and didnt know any better.
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So wearing a non-traditional islamic head scarf is not a rebellion against british culture, or are you claiming she wore it for integration purposes?
I get the point she may have not done it to INTENTIONALLY undermine the system but she knew that the headscarf WOULD help her to be able to listen to her mp3 player without being caught (that shows pre-meditation and not immaturity.).

Anyway Van_Dammesque look forward to your non racist reply. :)
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They all have been you just do not grasp the notion of racism. :)
 
I don't see how tradition is in any way relevant to this at all.

Should all those who don't strictly adhere to 'British traditions' (whatever they may be) just pack up and leave the country? I know I don't (at least consciously).
 
Van_Dammesque said:
Of course, the "islam" way is ALWAYS right, deep down we all know it! :rolleyes:


You could if your arguments were constructive and logically presented, such as answer how a muslim can wear headscarves in court and non-muslims cannot (presumably so they cannot do things like this incident has shown).


May I be allowed out of my black little box to respond, it get cramped in here.


So now you are agreeing with me that she should not have been allowed to wear it since other non-muslims are not allowed?


So wearing a non-traditional islamic head scarf is not a rebellion against british culture, or are you claiming she wore it for integration purposes?
I get the point she may have not done it to INTENTIONALLY undermine the system but she knew that the headscarf WOULD help her to be able to listen to her mp3 player without being caught (that shows pre-meditation and not immaturity.).


They all have been you just do not grasp the notion of racism. :)
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Yes, yes uh huh..

Im sorry if you got the wrong idea about my last post :)

But I was not agreeing with you, I was trying to pull the girl out of the argument when I said this "the issue of this whole thread she be treated like the Homer wearing glasses incident. The fact that she was listening to music is disgusting in a court of the UK. Wearing a headscarf obviously made it easy for her to do this but its not her fault that she was allowed to wear it" You should join a political group like the BNP.

I suppose i shouldnt get annoyed by your views as Im sure you express them to your Muslim friends that you have. You do know someone Muslim dont you, you would voice this views in public face to face wouldnt you????

Get over yourself, get back in your box chum.
 
ChemicalKicks said:
Late joining on this but from the news story the girl was young.

Im not defending her actions, she should get punished. Fair enough.

But look at all the behind closed door racism from some members, such "send her back (or even to jail/prison)

The reason its such a shocker is because of preconceptions of people of this faith, didnt see it coming! You (aimed at no one in particular) reckon because she is Muslim she would not dare do such a thing.

IMHO she is young and did something stupid, faith shouldnt be an aspect of this at all.

Thanks
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Faith should have nothing to do with it?
She abused a religious privilege afforded to her that allows her to wear headgear whilst serving a jury in court. How can "faith" or religion have "nothing to do with this"?
It quite clearly has a lot to do with it.

Incidentally where did anyone suggest she should be "sent back"? You wouldn't be constructing a strawman argumetn there would you because the fact aren't really strong enough to support your view?
Closet racism? What because she is a muslim whose race is not known she is now the victim of racism........ people are not happy that yet another religious privilege is being abused. You call that racism? :rolleyes:
 
VIRII said:
Faith should have nothing to do with it?
She abused a religious privilege afforded to her that allows her to wear headgear whilst serving a jury in court. How can "faith" or religion have "nothing to do with this"?
It quite clearly has a lot to do with it.

Incidentally where did anyone suggest she should be "sent back"? You wouldn't be constructing a strawman argumetn there would you because the fact aren't really strong enough to support your view?
Closet racism? What because she is a muslim whose race is not known she is now the victim of racism........ people are not happy that yet another religious privilege is being abused. You call that racism? :rolleyes:
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So then your agreed we should suspend all religous privileges? Religion studies should have no place. State schools equal zero Religion.


And why dont you try reading the entire thread from the start where more than a few members want to send her home dont assume reading from the recent posts.
 
ChemicalKicks said:
So then your agreed we should suspend all religous privileges? Religion studies should have no place. State schools equal zero Religion.
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Another strawman. We are discussing an abuse of religious privilege in a court of law. Nowhere have I suggested that this should apply to ALL religious privileges. Is there some reason why we must have blanket legislation that can not be tailored to individual situations? I can't think of one. Can you?

ChemicalKicks said:
And why dont you try reading the entire thread from the start where more than a few members want to send her home dont assume reading from the recent posts.
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Rather why don't you provide evidence in the format of a quote for your assumptions instead. I've read the thread from the beginning to where you posted your nonsense (post 38 page 2).
 
ChemicalKicks said:
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As you are "new" here I guess there are a few things that you aren't aware of about Mustard, nuking from Orbit, punching in the ovaries and STAB :mad:

All of which are allegedly "humourous" in origin and mock an alleged stereotype.

S (although here we use :D )

Whilst I think sarcasm fails miserably in an internet forum format many still use it, perhaps with a little more thought and a lot less haste you'll come to realise that both the instances that you quote are not serious, or did you really think "punch her in the ovaries was a serious suggestion?

Try putting "ovaries" into the forum search function and see how many times it comes up.
 
ChemicalKicks said:
And why dont you try reading the entire thread from the start where more than a few members want to send her home dont assume reading from the recent posts.
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Look, it's obvious you've not been here long, but please shut the hell up about "send him/her/them back!" It's a running joke here and has been for a long time.

Edit: VIRII beat me to it, but he did forget pics of bread TBH! ;)
 
ChemicalKicks said:
Yes, yes uh huh..

Im sorry if you got the wrong idea about my last post :)

But I was not agreeing with you, I was trying to pull the girl out of the argument when I said this "the issue of this whole thread she be treated like the Homer wearing glasses incident. The fact that she was listening to music is disgusting in a court of the UK. Wearing a headscarf obviously made it easy for her to do this but its not her fault that she was allowed to wear it" You should join a political group like the BNP.
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The BNP? Why not the labour party, after all they are the real "racists" and you accuse me of being racist; see my Person A or B scenario and tell me which political party makes them laws!

Quite simply put: becasue she is a muslim she is allowed to wear a headscarf in court, non-muslims are not, the headscarf allowed her to enter a courtroom without being asked to remove it, she was concealing an mp3 player and not listening to the evidence(terrible in itself and we both agree on that point, except the part when you contradicted yourself and went on a race card rant (RCR(TM)). What if she was concealing a gun or bomb? Where are the stringent security laws applied to others?

I suppose i shouldnt get annoyed by your views as Im sure you express them to your Muslim friends that you have. You do know someone Muslim dont you, you would voice this views in public face to face wouldnt you????
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Why is it necessary to be friends with people to be allowed to oppose their idealogies?
Should I make friends with Adolf Hitler so I can be able to criticise Nazism?
Is that your logic?

What I say on these forums I would say to ANY person on the street. What are you implying? That if I practised freedom of speech and had opposing views to that of islam and new labour's racism I would receive a kicking?!

Get over yourself, get back in your box chum.
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Come on you have taken a bite of the apple FOLLOW YOUR ARGUMENTS THROUGH without using ad-hominem attacks.
 
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