Your bad driving encounters

[Jokester]

I think it's related, I find it frustrating being stuck behind dawdlers doing 40 in a 60 so can totally see why people do dodgy overtakes. I often find the people that dawdle shouldn't really be driving as they often miss spots to pull out on roundabouts or are the ones joing motorways at 40.

I’ve recently bought a mild hybrid and joined the user forum for it and see people say they are getting 75mpg out of theirs from “mostly A and B road driving”. I know they can only do that by keeping engine use to a bare minimum, so slow acceleration from lights and on slip roads and then only doing 45-50mph, the absolute scourge of modern driving.

 

[Dsteviedee]

I think it's related, I find it frustrating being stuck behind dawdlers doing 40 in a 60 so can totally see why people do dodgy overtakes. I often find the people that dawdle shouldn't really be driving as they often miss spots to pull out on roundabouts or are the ones joing motorways at 40.

The worst part is, they accelerate when you overtake, making a safe overtake potentially dangerous.

 

[ICDP]

I’ve recently bought a mild hybrid and joined the user forum for it and see people say they are getting 75mpg out of theirs from “mostly A and B road driving”. I know they can only do that by keeping engine use to a bare minimum, so slow acceleration from lights and on slip roads and then only doing 45-50mph, the absolute scourge of modern driving.

This has always been a thing long before EVs were. I know EV drivers who tuck behind a truck at 60mph and then proclaim with pride they got 4.5kWh per mile on a motorway run. But before this I remember ICE forum members posting about the same thing and about getting 50mpg out of their 335i

Though to be fair most of the B roads I drive on are not suitable for over 45 at best due to cyclists and even people walking. So doing 60 on these kind of roads is inconsiderate at best and outright idiotic at worst. Like everything it’s about balance and common sense.

 

[Resident]

The lack of police is noticeable now. It's the same reason for the rampant shoplifting.

They have become reliant on cameras, but that doesn't stop people. The system is foiled by a hoodie or fake plates.

I've reported a car today which I suspect is on false international plates.

A RHD BMW on Slovakian plates (where they use LHD).

The plates seemed to be stuck on top of some plates underneath.

Plod was quite happy that they'd got a full descrip of the driver and plate details.

 

[Jokester]

This has always been a thing long before EVs were. I know EV drivers who tuck behind a truck at 60mph and then proclaim with pride they got 4.5kWh per mile on a motorway run. But before this I remember ICE forum members posting about the same thing and about getting 50mpg out of their 335i

Though to be fair most of the B roads I drive on are not suitable for over 45 at best due to cyclists and even people walking. So doing 60 on these kind of roads is inconsiderate at best and outright idiotic at worst. Like everything it’s about balance and common sense.

Possibly different elsewhere but B roads up here are usually more than adequate for 60, C roads would be a different story in many cases, narrow with no centre markings, blind bends etc.

Edit: I would go to say hypermiling on roads where it’s impossible to overtake is being a total douchbag.

 

[Yaayuh!]

Lately i've been wondering why so many drivers are incapable leaving enough space for two cars when going around roundabouts.
I put the fear of god into a dozy old biddy with my horn the other day as she tried to almost straight line a dual carriageway roundabout.

 

[ICDP]

Possibly different elsewhere but B roads up here are usually more than adequate for 60, C roads would be a different story in many cases, narrow with no centre markings, blind bends etc.

Hence my common sense statement. Would you do 60 on a twisty B road with barely 100 metres at best and usually significantly less between each turn or dip in the road? So the likelihood of a cyclist or pedestrian around a bind corner or dip, is quite high. If your answer is yes, then you are in fact a the kind of driver this thread is aimed at. If the answer is no then we agree it’s about applying some common sense.

 

[Jokester]

Hence my common sense statement. Would you do 60 on a twisty B road with barely 100 metres at best and usually significantly less between each turn or dip in the road? So the likelihood of a cyclist or pedestrian around a bind corner or dip, is quite high. If your answer is yes, then you are in fact a the kind of driver this thread is aimed at. If the answer is no then we agree it’s about applying some common sense.

Don’t get me wrong, there’s common sense, but if your hypermiling on a road where you need to regularly slow down and speed up anyway then its completely inconsiderate when you consider these roads would be impossible to overtake safely on.

 

[ICDP]

Don’t get me wrong, there’s common sense, but if your hypermiling on a road where you need to regularly slow down and speed up anyway then its completely inconsiderate when you consider these roads would be impossible to overtake safely on.

I may be reading too much into it but your post was about people doing 40-50 on A and B roads. So A roads I agree with but B roads you start to get in to a very grey area.

 

[CaptainRAVE]

This made me laugh on the morning commute

 

[Jokester]

I may be reading too much into it but your post was about people doing 40-50 on A and B roads. So A roads I agree with but B roads you start to get in to a very grey area.

I should probably expand on the car - it's a Yaris Cross, if you're still doing 75mpg on a "twisty" roads you definitely won't be even doing 40mph, you'll be barely more than typical town driving speeds.

 

[Rroff]

This has always been a thing long before EVs were. I know EV drivers who tuck behind a truck at 60mph and then proclaim with pride they got 4.5kWh per mile on a motorway run. But before this I remember ICE forum members posting about the same thing and about getting 50mpg out of their 335i

Though to be fair most of the B roads I drive on are not suitable for over 45 at best due to cyclists and even people walking. So doing 60 on these kind of roads is inconsiderate at best and outright idiotic at worst. Like everything it’s about balance and common sense.

On this note I was very annoyed yesterday on getting to work to find I'd done 3 MPG higher than my previous highest after being stuck behind someone hypermiling - but to be fair they actually knew how to hypermile rather than just drive slower and half of that was enforced driving at hypermiling speeds due to reduced limits for roadworks. I suspect most of that 3 MPG came from them breaking the air resistance in front of me so I benefited more from their driving than they did LOL. Far too tedious to be worth it for 3 MPG though (probably more like 4 compared to my attempts).

Edit: I would go to say hypermiling on roads where it’s impossible to overtake is being a total douchbag.

Absolutely - I actually often drive a fair bit below the limit when I'm out at night and there is no other traffic around, partly due to being used to van speed limits, but if someone comes up behind me I will speed up to a reasonable speed for the road.

Lately i've been wondering why so many drivers are incapable leaving enough space for two cars when going around roundabouts.
I put the fear of god into a dozy old biddy with my horn the other day as she tried to almost straight line a dual carriageway roundabout.

It really needs to get through to people's awareness to stagger on roundabouts, etc. a few times, and I'm pretty sure they were completely unaware of me, it has saved me from people straight lining lanes which I'm pretty sure from their overall driving they were going to do all along and not just because I'd held back slightly i.e.

 

[Mr Joshua]

I find it quite amusing reading some of the comments online about people who are going under the speed limit. Nowadays I do 10mph less than NSL and I've only recently discovered that this seems to really annoy people.

Given the **** standard of driving by the majority of road users this fresh knowledge fills me with an immense amount of satisfaction.

 

[Nasher]

I've reported a car today which I suspect is on false international plates.

A RHD BMW on Slovakian plates (where they use LHD).

The plates seemed to be stuck on top of some plates underneath.

Plod was quite happy that they'd got a full descrip of the driver and plate details.

And then filed the report straight in to the shredder.

 

[ICDP]

I find it quite amusing reading some of the comments online about people who are going under the speed limit. Nowadays I do 10mph less than NSL and I've only recently discovered that this seems to really annoy people.

Given the **** standard of driving by the majority of road users this fresh knowledge fills me with an immense amount of satisfaction.

In many cases posts on this thread are not others bad driving, but “I get easily annoyed”. So many of the “bad driving” accounts are actually perfectly reasonable driving.

 

[Rroff]

I find it quite amusing reading some of the comments online about people who are going under the speed limit. Nowadays I do 10mph less than NSL and I've only recently discovered that this seems to really annoy people.

Given the **** standard of driving by the majority of road users this fresh knowledge fills me with an immense amount of satisfaction.

Depends a bit on the situation - as above I do quite a bit of driving to van limits so 10MPH under the NSL doesn't unduly bother me, but there are an increasing number of people driving unreasonably lower than the speed limit these days, though only a part of it I notice that is often accompanied by mobile phone use while driving or just on the phone even when hands free coupled with reduced awareness of what is going on about them. But also, judging by the Facebook comments, some who seem to think they are heroes for driving, unnecessarily, 10MPH below the limits below NSL and/or never going over 40 at all.

 

[Rroff]

The most annoying one is probably the new trend of stopping way back from the line at traffic lights. Why :/

Not sure what is going on with this one at all - definitely on the rise at the moment.

The one I usually get with that is at 2 lane traffic lights, with 1-2 cars waiting in lane 1 not obviously indicating that they are turning off and no idea if they are going to get going or not I file in behind them, then you get someone else come along and late decision move into lane 2 and stop way back from the line and I just know they then won't get going, will keep kind of fake trying to come across to the left as if they expect the car alongside them to disappear and just sit out there not slowing down to drop back behind the line of cars and not getting going to pass them, then leaving me sitting there with nowhere to go if the cars in lane 1 also don't get going... just why they go in lane 2 beats me, I guess maybe a knock on effect of so many people not bothering to indicate so they just assume.

Doesn't help I think as well that modern life has pushed a lot of people into driving who wouldn't choose to and don't want to be there.

 

[Resident]

Doesn't help I think as well that modern life has pushed a lot of people into driving who wouldn't choose to and don't want to be there.

On several occasions I've seen driver who look absolutely terrified behind the wheel, mostly female.

 

[LuckyBenski]

Doesn't help I think as well that modern life has pushed a lot of people into driving who wouldn't choose to and don't want to be there.

I think this is definitely a thing. I certainly see a lot of people who shouldn't be driving, or shouldn't be driving something the size it is!

 

[Nasher]

On several occasions I've seen driver who look absolutely terrified behind the wheel, mostly female.

Yea, usually the ones who were going 30-40 the entire way on my old commute. Face up against the windscreen and braking every time someone passes them in the opposite direction.

Nervous drivers are probably on the rise as public transport gets ******* and more expensive. So they are forced to scrape through the test and drive to work.