Your bad driving encounters
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I don't think this is well known really, see plenty of people jumping red lights to let emergency services through.
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While it might be against the law, I had a copper with his lights on behind me in a 40. I was overtaking as the left lane was doing ~37 (ie not a quick overtake, and thd right lane moves a lot faster), I used a bit of common sense and just did 45 to get infront of this particular car and I didn't get stopped. Imo that should be acceptable, obviously if there was a camera there it would have been a different story, but there wasn't.
In addition to above I'd say the top nobbish driver alert is the private plate, where as the baby on board ones just tend to be poor all round. Different types of bad driving in my experience.
In addition to above I'd say the top nobbish driver alert is the private plate, where as the baby on board ones just tend to be poor all round. Different types of bad driving in my experience.
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The problem lies within the apparent link that one has prescribed that cocksure also ALWAYS includes being an idiot.
Therein lies the original point I was making. Being cocksure does not definitively categorise the person (driver) as also being an idiot.
I have seen many sports champions behaving in a cocksure manner, it is not uncommon as they realise or celebrate their victory. The very fact that they are CHAMPIONS in their chosen discipline demonstrates categorically that cocksure does not ALWAYS mean "over"-confident "beyond their abilities".
Like I said before - I accept that I sometimes have a tendency to come across as cocksure - you could argue that I am being cocksure right now - because I know that what I'm typing carries merit. That's not confidence beyond justification, it's simply me asserting the point I'm trying to make - that cocksure does not always signal someone out as an idiot by extension/inclusion//conflation.
I would like to think, that those that read my post where I used the term would assume that I meant the arrogant, conceited, stupid driver that it was meant to highlight that infect our roads. This type of driver has no consideration for anyone but themselves and would probably become enraged if someone else had done the same thing to them and their family.
Re: Emergency vehicles, especially on M-Ways in slow moving traffic
Why cant people realise that all they need to do is move over a bit. Lanes 1&2 move over to the left as far as possible and lane 3 move over to the right, allowing the emergency vehicle to pass up the middle line of lane 2 and 3?
This also prevents the whallopers pulling in behind and tailgating the emergency vehicle once it has passed them to "beat" everyone else....
Why cant people realise that all they need to do is move over a bit. Lanes 1&2 move over to the left as far as possible and lane 3 move over to the right, allowing the emergency vehicle to pass up the middle line of lane 2 and 3?
This also prevents the whallopers pulling in behind and tailgating the emergency vehicle once it has passed them to "beat" everyone else....
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had read there s legislation on that abroad
RIP the folks who drove though the underpass full of water https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-merseyside-66635952,
do wonder if you did not realise water was deep, electrics on windows gone, water pressure against doors - whether you should have one of those glass hammers.
e: https://youtu.be/lm6sL_tk3A0?t=121
RIP the folks who drove though the underpass full of water https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-merseyside-66635952,
do wonder if you did not realise water was deep, electrics on windows gone, water pressure against doors - whether you should have one of those glass hammers.
e: https://youtu.be/lm6sL_tk3A0?t=121
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That depends whether you are now conflating a driver who safely overtakes other drivers with a behavioural marker that they don't care about anyone else?
That'd be so closed-minded, would it not? And we're back to square one.
Just because you personally dislike another driver's driving, that doesn't actually mean that:
1. They've done something "wrong";
2. That they don't care about other road users.
I'm sure that you must realise this is true.
Personally, it is every vehicle I'm concerned about, not some imaginary "type" of vehicle. I've seen idiocy and danger from every vehicle possible but none of them is the more common. I'm sure you have too, but somehow the type of vehicles that *I* drive are somehow *preemptively* more repugnant to you and this could be argued to be a part of the problem. The problem may not be my behaviour, but instead could be your personal preemptive judgemental bias.
For the record, my wife and I drive a Mitsubishi Evo 6 (performance modified, private plate), a late Subaru STI (modified, private plate) and a Porsche Turbo S.
So yeah, according to some, I must the problem. Because for sure, you can judge a book by its cover.
Where on earth have you got that all from, I am referring to those drivers/riders that drive in such a way that has the potential to cause accidents or injury just because of their poor driving that includes cars, bikes and lorries ( overtaking on blind bends or when approaching a right turn junction springs to mind ). So I am not judging just pointing out the irresponsible people that now are on the road.
Albeit I should probably mount it, but there isn't really a good place, but I keep one of those hammers in the centre console storage of each of my vehicles. In an emergency you might have some luck with removable headrest prongs though not all vehicles have that.
One time we were camping in Norfolk in/near the Broads and one night just up the road from us some guy drink driving left the road on a bend into the water and drowned, we weren't aware of it until after but a sobering scene to pass on the road as the car was left there for some days.
I think they are just upset because they got the definition of cocksure wrong and instead of improving their understanding of the English language they double down on being wrong. If that is the same mentality they use when driving then maybe their arrogant, conceited and overconfident (aka cocksure) belief in their driving abilities is unwarranted.
You maybe right, like I pointed out in an earlier post most of us are just ordinary people, but these idiots are the minority that shouldn't be on the road. I think the way that the law handles this problem of bad driving/riding is too lenient. Yes I know they have to be caught, but the increased use of dashcams and helmetcams could be a help to aid prosecution.
Was watching a video recently of someone following a car where the driver was obviously paying more attention to nattering with the passenger and other distractions, slow getting moving, inconsistent speed, poor lane discipline and general wandering, unnecessarily got in the way of 2 other drivers, nearly crashing into one due to changing lanes without looking properly despite the other vehicle indicating before them, etc. probably just as bad or worse as drink driving or using their phone but unlikely to be pulled up on it the same as those.
I agree, it's the same with people who state "excessive speed is fine in modern cars and when driven to the conditions"... like they genuinely believe they are somehow more competent than everyone else just because they own a "performance car". I have been guilty of breaking motoring laws in the past but eventually I wised up, but not because of the utterly pointless "deterrence" we typically see in the UK.
You may think that this is a cold take but pure Darwin award winner for the driver. The water level rising would have been very evident long before they were in any real trouble. The driver made a conscious decision to drive into the flooded underpass. Should be deemed as a case of manslaughter by dangerous driving (passenger) and Self inflicted unintentional death (driver)
Deeming it an accident or death by mis-adventure seriously discredits the memory of the innocent victim (passenger).
I don't really know the circumstances but in the dark deep water can be hidden and if you are carrying a bit of speed you'll go a fair way before stopping (also if deeper water it surprisingly doesn't take much for a car to start floating on it and then you'll just continue slowly in the direction you were going as the car starts to submerge). I've learnt to be very cautious in certain condition if I have to take some back roads, even parts of the main roads, around here as you can get yourself in trouble very quickly if you don't manage your speed to the condition and be on the ball - one of the reasons I like driving my pickup. Though the worst bits on the main roads have had extra drainage put in recently and haven't yet flooded like in the past.
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If he was driving and she was anything like my wife she was telling him what he should think and do and he was blindly following orders for an easy life! Or maybe she was driving and ignoring all the danger signs.
Who knows, either way I do feel sorry for them.
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