Your bad driving encounters

[Rroff]

did the 2 white cars know one another - did the smaller one brake check the van (the oddest thing in the clip) because he couldn't see his mate

need an option on dashcam to show speed (up to a capped 70mph) - it's difficult to judge motivations when you can't see if people(youngsters) are being very cautious about temporarily exceeding 70mph;
if they have a black box in the car, say, maybe you drive differently, well I might if I thought insurance might double if you exceeded limit.

No idea if they knew each other, couple of points I did wonder but that doesn't excuse the dawdling. They didn't brake check the van they just were all over the place speed wise and not giving enough margin when wanting to come back to lane 1 causing the van to drop their speed off to leave a safe gap - I have no idea why they even overtook the van, probably because it was a van and would "slow them down" in their mind despite they weren't really going any faster than the van before or after the overtake...

I've just got a cheap dashcam for the Qashqai which doesn't include speed as when I bought it I wasn't intending to keep it more than a few months.

Even with a black box no excuse for that driving as mentioned they were never at risk of exceeding the speed limit and plenty of margin for getting up to speed more briskly before you'd score poorly for acceleration.

Maybe I sound angry but more just find it perplexing - they were obviously not comfortable doing any faster than we were in lane 1 at the start so why put themselves in lane 2 it would have just meant they'd have to ease off slightly as they came up behind us just as the lights changed. And why not just get going as to my mind would be normal once in the NSL.

 

[Resident]

It's been an absolute day of them today. Driven past at least 5 RTCs, some involving more than one car, all involving at least on of the parties failing to stop for give way/red lights. I've also had a few close calls for the same.

People seem to forget that a bus = 12+ tons of vehicle.

 

[Deleted User 298457]

Need a second opinion on this... I mean what the actual F.

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So I'm doing about 30, see he is reversing, make sure to make eye contact so he knows I am there, and he goes and reverses out anyway?

I'm now overthinking this, but I can't imagine a situation with a car that close where I'd continue the manoeuvre.

Lucky I evaded him with about half an inch to spare. It was so close it triggered the reversing sensor.

 

[Dis86]

It's been an absolute day of them today. Driven past at least 5 RTCs, some involving more than one car, all involving at least on of the parties failing to stop for give way/red lights. I've also had a few close calls for the same.

People seem to forget that a bus = 12+ tons of vehicle.

There was a massive one near me yesterday. Lorry driver just drove in to the back of a load of stationary cars on the A1.

 

[Dis86]

Need a second opinion on this... I mean what the actual F.

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So I'm doing about 30, see he is reversing, make sure to make eye contact so he knows I am there, and he goes and reverses out anyway?

I'm now overthinking this, but I can't imagine a situation with a car that close where I'd continue the manoeuvre.

Lucky I evaded him with about half an inch to spare. It was so close it triggered the reversing sensor.

Nah, that's totally on him being a clown's pocket. People will argue you should have seen and anticipated however.

 

[Rroff]

It's been an absolute day of them today. Driven past at least 5 RTCs, some involving more than one car, all involving at least on of the parties failing to stop for give way/red lights. I've also had a few close calls for the same.

People seem to forget that a bus = 12+ tons of vehicle.

I'm surprised I don't see more accidents - Sunday night one must have happened literally seconds behind me given the posts on Facebook and the road was closed for 3 hours due to having to clean up from it so lucky I didn't hang about getting out of work. There seems to be a serious or fatal accident reported in the local news on the roads I use most days almost daily now

 

[Rroff]

Need a second opinion on this... I mean what the actual F.

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So I'm doing about 30, see he is reversing, make sure to make eye contact so he knows I am there, and he goes and reverses out anyway?

I'm now overthinking this, but I can't imagine a situation with a car that close where I'd continue the manoeuvre.

Lucky I evaded him with about half an inch to spare. It was so close it triggered the reversing sensor.

I know what Ashley Neal would say; you had plenty of time to stop - however there are loads of people like this sadly who expect other people to stop for them despite those other people being already on the major road. The highway code also recommends in these situations reversing in and driving forwards out so that driver was doubly a clown - now with a normal car I wouldn't be too fussed about that but with a van there is a good reason for doing that.

 

[Deleted User 298457]

Nah, that's totally on him being a clown's pocket. People will argue you should have seen and anticipated however.

Yeah to be fair I spotted him a mile off, I'd upload rear view but it's upside down so I'll fix that first - I tap the breaks ready to stop (you can see red light appear on rear view) but as soon as we make eye contact...I'm thinking no way is he going to keep going.

I know what Ashley Neal would say; you had plenty of time to stop - however there are loads of people like this sadly who expect other people to stop for them despite those other people being already on the major road. The highway code also recommends in these situations reversing in and driving forwards out so that driver was doubly a clown - now with a normal car I wouldn't be too fussed about that but with a van there is a good reason for doing that.

Yeah unfortunately we made eye contact so it was purely an expectation from him that he had right of way.

The rear cam is even funnier because he then stays where he is, only choosing the reverse a bit further when the lady I went in the path of was right at the back of his van. Almost like he was on 10x slow motion lol.

 

[theone8181]

I've seen plenty of people doing that and reversing onto a main road is far more dangerous than reversing onto a drive. I'd have done the same, expecting him to stop as you have right of way.
On the subject if crossroads, I had to do an emergency stop the other day due to someone not giving way at a give way. Was only a tescos car oark do probably ~10mph, but it's the way the driver was obvious and didn't even wave a hand to sorry that passes me off. There must be 10% of drivers covering for the 90% of **** driving these days. I'd say I see at least 3 near misses on my commute each way and people are just poor drivers.

This morning some moron decided to pull onto the roundabout while I was on it then try and pull into me. Thr roundabout is a big one, that has me going from single carriageway to dual, but this guy wanted to change into the lane I was in on the dual while I was there. Not saying its related, but it was a bmw .
Imo a compulsory test every 5 years should be brought to check the important things like indicating, giving way at roundabouts and general driving skills.

 

[Resident]

I know what Ashley Neal would say; you had plenty of time to stop - however there are loads of people like this sadly who expect other people to stop for them despite those other people being already on the major road. The highway code also recommends in these situations reversing in and driving forwards out so that driver was doubly a clown - now with a normal car I wouldn't be too fussed about that but with a van there is a good reason for doing that.

On one hand I get the teachings of AN but the other says that the more we accommodate bad driving the worse it will become, case in point.

Of course most of this bad driving has thrived due to the lack of police enforcement. Most police areas will now accept dashcam footage and prosecute if the evidence is good but not all. My local rozzers won't accept footage unless they appeal for it.

 

[Rroff]

This morning some moron decided to pull onto the roundabout while I was on it then try and pull into me.

Even at night I get people giving no quarter when joining roundabouts when I'm already on them I often have to position myself quite dominantly risking cutting them up on one to stop people joining as I'm passing them and in doing so blocking me moving over to take my exit.

On one hand I get the teachings of AN but the other says that the more we accommodate bad driving the worse it will become, case in point.

Of course most of this bad driving has thrived due to the lack of police enforcement. Most police areas will now accept dashcam footage and prosecute if the evidence is good but not all. My local rozzers won't accept footage unless they appeal for it.

That is one thing I have mixed feelings about as to his position on that stuff - a lot of these people knowing do the wrong thing and will only alter their behaviour when taken to task over it but at the end of the day there is no point being in the right if you end up in an avoidable crash. Same with most people who tailgate - 90% of them in my experience know they shouldn't but still do it until someone remonstrates with them and will straight away do it to the next car...

 

[Resident]

There was a massive one near me yesterday. Lorry driver just drove in to the back of a load of stationary cars on the A1.

I had a notification about that bizarrely on our traffic app for work. Dunno why though as I work in and around Sheffield/Rotherham/Doncaster.
HGV arrested for dangerous driving, what's betting he was on a phone or other device...

 

[Deleted User 298457]

Even at night I get people giving no quarter when joining roundabouts when I'm already on them I often have to position myself quite dominantly risking cutting them up on one to stop people joining as I'm passing them and in doing so blocking me moving over to take my exit.



That is one thing I have mixed feelings about as to his position on that stuff - a lot of these people knowing do the wrong thing and will only alter their behaviour when taken to task over it but at the end of the day there is no point being in the right if you end up in an avoidable crash. Same with most people who tailgate - 90% of them in my experience know they shouldn't but still do it until someone remonstrates with them and will straight away do it to the next car...

Putting pressure on folk in lane 4 of the M1 is the only way to make progress with the number of total rejects occupying every single lane.

 

[SilverTongue]

Nah, that's totally on him being a clown's pocket. People will argue you should have seen and anticipated however.

whilst it is totally on him for being a complete tool and had there been a collision it would have absolutely been completely the van drivers fault, there is still the arguement that dLockers did see and it was blatently obvious that the van was not going to stop, so therefore dLockers should have stopped.

Far too many people get into a non-fault accident or even near-miss and completely refuse to admit that they could have still avoided it, the mindset always seems to be well I wasn't at fault so my driving must have been perfect.

 

[200sols]

Need a second opinion on this... I mean what the actual F.

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So I'm doing about 30, see he is reversing, make sure to make eye contact so he knows I am there, and he goes and reverses out anyway?

I'm now overthinking this, but I can't imagine a situation with a car that close where I'd continue the manoeuvre.

Lucky I evaded him with about half an inch to spare. It was so close it triggered the reversing sensor.

Is that a 40 zone?

 

[Removed User 345456]

Does anyone else seem to find that the Vauxhall Moka, is THE car to fear when driven by anyone? Usually drivwn by very young mum's with a full cars worth of kids?

I had one jump a 5-10second gone red light at a 5 lane motorway roundabout junction (I was at the back of the que) - so by the time I finally crossed (still green) she then flew blindly across all 5 lanes, to which we had to slam our brakes on and nearly hit the cars behind us, all whilst she swore and threw something out of the window, whilst smoking out the car with the kids in with her window having to be wound down

Ever since this has happened, those car's have become jinxed wherever I go, and I see the maddest behaviour, and it as cliche as it sounds does seem to be all from very young mums with packed with kids.

I genuinely haha, cannot think of a single one i've seen since that motorway incident 5+ years ago, that hasn't done something strange/dangerous/speeding.

This definitely tops the old people that indicate right and drive straight forward, or brake for people on the other side of a road miles away when going up or down a hill!

 

[Deleted User 298457]

whilst it is totally on him for being a complete tool and had there been a collision it would have absolutely been completely the van drivers fault, there is still the arguement that dLockers did see and it was blatently obvious that the van was not going to stop, so therefore dLockers should have stopped.

Far too many people get into a non-fault accident or even near-miss and completely refuse to admit that they could have still avoided it, the mindset always seems to be well I wasn't at fault so my driving must have been perfect.

100% agree - although I'm slightly more sympathetic to some dash cams that show the dash cammer as part of the problem now, as I genuinely had zero belief this lad was going to crack on once I made eye contact about 4 car lengths away from him.

Is that a 40 zone?

No, 30

 

[200sols]

No, 30

Why you doing 34 then

 

[SilverTongue]

100% agree - although I'm slightly more sympathetic to some dash cams that show the dash cammer as part of the problem now, as I genuinely had zero belief this lad was going to crack on once I made eye contact about 4 car lengths away from him.

Completely get what you are saying, you would think that after making eye contact he would have stopped, however at no point during the video did he stop, even whilst making eye contact with you, if anything he put his foot down more. Show him to be more of an idiot tbh, but in fairness you didn't even attempt to slow down until the point you were swerving. You should have backed off the accelerator long before that point.

As said, he was completely in the wrong, but like I said in my other post in almost every collision or near miss there is something to be learned by both sides.

 

[Deleted User 298457]

Why you doing 34 then

Do you want to spank me in person?