Your bad driving encounters

[gc123]

had a recovery truck dropping next doors car off this afternoon, noticed raised voices..... merc driver had driven right up to the rear and was refusing to move back because in her words...the truck shouldnt be stationary....
for goodness sake, hazards on ,and he was in a hi vis stood behind his truck with a remote to lower his bed, what was he supposed to do ....
you guessed it, he put everything back on and had to move on in his words she probably didnt know where reverse was..flippin entitled

 

[Rroff]

had a recovery truck dropping next doors car off this afternoon, noticed raised voices..... merc driver had driven right up to the rear and was refusing to move back because in her words...the truck shouldnt be stationary....
for goodness sake, hazards on ,and he was in a hi vis stood behind his truck with a remote to lower his bed, what was he supposed to do ....
you guessed it, he put everything back on and had to move on in his words she probably didnt know where reverse was..flippin entitled

I've seen it before, one of the shopping centres in town has a We Buy Any Car place in the car park and BCA transporters pick up the cars from time to time - I've seen it more than once where even with the car park half empty people will park up blocking the obviously in use transporter at the back while they are in the middle of loading cars from the rear... cue arguments.

People seem absolutely stupid when it comes to parking though - I regularly have people use the space beside me in a car park with plenty of whole blocks of spaces free then glare at me like it is my fault when they are squeezing out between the vehicles... especially annoying when I'm driving the pickup and purposefully choose a space a bit out of the way. I'd start glaring at them but I don't think most people have the awareness to understand why... LOL.

 

[cheesefest]

Motorcyclist with L plate, couldn't be bothered queuing. So decided to drive on the other side of the road almost causing an accident when a bus turned right from a side road.

Saw him riding on the wrong side of the road three times in a matter of days. Wish I got dash cam and made note of his reg.

What an utter b***e**

 

[cheesefest]

Yep, as I was saying before, ALWAYS fear any car in an awful colour, especially a pastel/matte combo on something ghastly!

My ex called cars with metallic yellow as metallic p*** and usually are awful drivers and parkers.

 

[SilverTongue]

Motorcyclist with L plate, couldn't be bothered queuing. So decided to drive on the other side of the road almost causing an accident when a bus turned right from a side road.

Saw him riding on the wrong side of the road three times in a matter of days. Wish I got dash cam and made note of his reg.

What an utter b***e**

in this instance the bus would be in the wrong. filtering through traffic is actually perfectly legal and far, far safer for bikers. If you are pulling from a side road you have the higher duty of care to ensure the way is clear before proceeding

 

[cheesefest]

in this instance the bus would be in the wrong. filtering through traffic is actually perfectly legal and far, far safer for bikers. If you are pulling from a side road you have the higher duty of care to ensure the way is clear before proceeding

It was the way the motorcyclist was riding too close to the traffic was a concern.

 

[Rroff]

in this instance the bus would be in the wrong. filtering through traffic is actually perfectly legal and far, far safer for bikers. If you are pulling from a side road you have the higher duty of care to ensure the way is clear before proceeding

Saw a horrific accident once where a horsebox slowed to let someone out, who were turning to their right, from a turning on the left just as someone on a motorbike pulled out from the back of the queue of cars behind the horsebox and went warp speed down the other side - they never had a chance car emerged into their path about a second before they hit it.

 

[tom_e]

It was the way the motorcyclist was riding too close to the traffic was a concern.

Were they on the other side of the road or too close to the traffic? Surely it can't be both.

 

[ICDP]

in this instance the bus would be in the wrong. filtering through traffic is actually perfectly legal and far, far safer for bikers. If you are pulling from a side road you have the higher duty of care to ensure the way is clear before proceeding

Not necessarily true. The bus should be aware of their surroundings but so should the motorcyclist and they should not be filtering at a junction unless clear to do so. In this case it would be up to the courts and insurers to decide on a case by case basis.

So some numpty on a motorcycle ignores the clearly emerging bus, or worse just assumes “I have right of way” against some vehicle turning right for example and it may just be deemed their fault. If you are too stupid to realise you are going to come off worse in any collision and as such be more mindful of those “grey areas”, then you should not be on the roads on a motorcycle.

It does get tiresome listening to the typical bikers try to claim that because filtering is legal, it means they are immune to any fault in any resulting crash.

 

[Resident]

I've seen it before, one of the shopping centres in town has a We Buy Any Car place in the car park and BCA transporters pick up the cars from time to time - I've seen it more than once where even with the car park half empty people will park up blocking the obviously in use transporter at the back while they are in the middle of loading cars from the rear... cue arguments.

TBF BCA drivers tend to be utter A-holes and think they can pull up anywhere. At least 3 times in the last 3 months I've seen a BCA driver getting done by police because they've parked up in either a bus lane or in a marked clearway because they don't wanna pull into the dealership.

Motorcyclist with L plate, couldn't be bothered queuing. So decided to drive on the other side of the road almost causing an accident when a bus turned right from a side road.

Saw him riding on the wrong side of the road three times in a matter of days. Wish I got dash cam and made note of his reg.

What an utter b***e**

in this instance the bus would be in the wrong. filtering through traffic is actually perfectly legal and far, far safer for bikers. If you are pulling from a side road you have the higher duty of care to ensure the way is clear before proceeding

Yes filtering is legal. Riding in an opposing lane into oncoming traffic isn't. Especially when it leads you into a conflict with other road users. When filtering the onus is on the biker to proceed safely. Continuing to filter past a junction that has been intentionally left clear without checking for emerging vehicles that may not have seen you isn't safe.

 

[ICDP]

Saw a horrific accident once where a horsebox slowed to let someone out, who were turning to their right, from a turning on the left just as someone on a motorbike pulled out from the back of the queue of cars behind the horsebox and went warp speed down the other side - they never had a chance car emerged into their path about a second before they hit it.

Yep seen similar but with a bicycle flying up the inside of traffic that the lead car had stopped to let someone out of a junction. The cyclist went right in to the side of the car emerging from the junction and thankfully it was non fatal. Though I do admit I felt the car driver had every right to be ****** at the stupidity of the cyclist, they should also have seen them coming. Why do motorcyclists and cyclists not assume every junction is a major hazard.

 

[Greebo]

saw one years ago on a single lane A road. traffic had come to stop about 6 cars in front due to a car waiting to turn right with a gap in oncoming traffic. Que biker going past all the park cars at 20-30mph and just as he got level with the car in front, it turned and biker went over the bonnet. I attended the wounded biker (suspected broken arm) until the ambulance arrived. I did wonder who would be found at fault in that situation.

 

[ICDP]

A biker would argue the car was at fault but the truth is it would be on a case by case basis. The fact is that while it is perfectly legal for a motorcyclist to filter, the Highway Code does recommend they do so safely and carefully at junctions. So while a motorist may be legally found at fault in that scenario, the motorcyclist was an idiot.

 

[Resident]

A biker would argue the car was at fault but the truth is it would be on a case by case basis. The fact is that while it is perfectly legal for a motorcyclist to filter, the Highway Code does recommend they do so safely and carefully at junctions. So while a motorist may be legally found at fault in that scenario, the motorcyclist was an idiot.

If the motorist who turned was indicating then the biker would have been riding without due care and attention and found at fault.

 

[ICDP]

If the motorist who turned was indicating then the biker would have been riding without due care and attention and found at fault.

You would think so but the driver must still check their surroundings before making their manoeuvre. So could end up 50/50.

The problem is I know a few bikers and they insist filtering is fully legal. Even at junctions like in the case above. They refuse to accept the Highway Code and actual motoring laws that dictate they should take care at junctions and in some cases such as zig zag lines and solid lines, filtering is indeed illegal. Conversely I know many car drivers who think motorcyclists and especially cyclists are the cause of most accidents.

 

[Haggisman]

A biker would argue the car was at fault but the truth is it would be on a case by case basis. The fact is that while it is perfectly legal for a motorcyclist to filter, the Highway Code does recommend they do so safely and carefully at junctions. So while a motorist may be legally found at fault in that scenario, the motorcyclist was an idiot.

I had an almost identical incident (me being the car turning right), except the bike went into my rear quarter. No further action was taken against the motorcyclist, but the insurance claim went fully in my favour.

 

[ICDP]

I had an almost identical incident (me being the car turning right), except the bike went into my rear quarter. No further action was taken against the motorcyclist, but the insurance claim went fully in my favour.

Yeah it’s beyond belief how many times a biker would instantly default to the “filtering is legal” line. When you acknowledge it is only mostly legal and there are caveats, they get defensive. So I use this very type of scenario as evidence. Or the number of car drivers who assume filtering is always illegal and it’s just motorcyclists being cheeky.

 

[theone8181]

Yeah it’s beyond belief how many times a biker would instantly default to the “filtering is legal” line. When you acknowledge it is only mostly legal and there are caveats, I use this very type of scenario as evidence. Or the number of car drivers who assume filtering is always illegal and it’s just motorcyclists being cheeky.

There's lots of things that are legal, doesn't make them smart to do though.

 

[ICDP]

There's lots of things that are legal, doesn't make them smart to do though.

Yes and it’s the same with the Highway Code which specifically mentions you should be alert to and react to danger. They confuse “right of way” to mean totally absolved of blame in the event of a crash.

Yes I saw the car coming the wrong way up a one way street and could have avoided the crash… but why should I because I have right of way.

 

[Resident]

Yes and it’s the same with the Highway Code which specifically mentions you should be alert to and react to danger. They confuse “right of way” to mean totally absolved of blame in the event of a crash.

Yes I saw the car coming the wrong way up a one way street and could have avoided the crash… but why should I because I have right of way.

Except the Highway Code is very explicit in the fact that no-one has 'Right of way' in any given situation.