Your country needs YOU!

It absolutely shouldn't, unless you don't believe in free will and individuals taking responsibility for themselves.

Nobody is forcing them to post about Trump every day, or to read article after article of doom and gloom.

On the Trump point. He is just the news. I mean, yeh i guess we could just all never read or watch the news ever again to avoid all the awful things going on...

..and you yes you absolutely can blame social media companies for these problems and get legislation in to do something about it.

Alcohol and tobacco etc are known to be harmful to our health and they both have been put under strict controls (age restrictions, warnings on labels etc etc). Therefore if you think that is what is causing human beings harm, then there absolutely should be intervention from both the companies involved and the government.

Many of our laws are made to help protect ourselves and those around us from products that are bad for our health.
 
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You have both put it better than I ever could.



I'm super lucky that practically all of my adult working life has been within some form of crash or recession. We had to skimp and save to buy a small 2 bedroom house. We are both working professionals in the top 5% of household income yet we it feels like being able to buy a family home and have another child (for a whopping total of 2!) seems like financially impossible at the moment.

Yet boomers were able to buy big 3/4 bed houses whilst the husband worked and the wife stayed at home to look after the children. To say I'm envious doesn't even begin to cut how I feel. Though I take a bit of solace in knowing it's not just us and millions of other people in my age group are feeling the same squeeze.



*Chefs kiss*

You are both in top 5pc and are struggling?
I get if one person is.. But 2 people??

5pc is about 80-90k apparently. Surely things can't be difficult with 2 people on that?
 
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Trump is just the news. You cannot blame awful things being in the news on the people that read them.

He's not just the news to people, and I wasn't talking about just reading or watching the news. It's become more than that, where they rant and rave about someone on an almost daily basis. If it's not him, it's some other politician or event. Imagine if they spent that time focusing on themselves instead, rather than on an external factor they can do little to nothing about, other than when it comes to voting.

Social media is already regulated by governments and while more could be done, those who are adults need to take some responsibility and realise how much it's affecting their outlook.
 
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He's not just the news to people, and I wasn't talking about just reading or watching the news. It's become more than that, where they rant and rave about someone on an almost daily basis. If it's not him, it's some other politician or event.

Social media is already regulated by governments and while more could be done, those who are adults need to take some responsibility and realise how much it's affecting their outlook.

The less social media the better imo.
That's not saying go cold turkey.
But endless consumption of misery and bitterness does no one any good.

Joina and few groups of like minded people, sure.. But consume the pushed news misery stories or junk videos and influencer stuff? Its a no from me.
 
Thread tangent. Now people will let the Russians invade because boomers houses have increased in value.
It's not really that tangental though - housing is but one of the things that has a massive downward pressure on millennials and younger generations who are the ones who would have to go out and fight, and so the desire to actual fight is massively reduced, because what are they fighting for? You could (almost) argue it'd be better for the older generation to get wiped out a bit to free up some of their hoarded resources for the young ones.
 
You are both in top 5pc and are struggling?
I get if one person is.. But 2 people??

5pc is about 80-90k apparently. Surely things can't be difficult with 2 people on that?

He said household income, so i assume that between them they're on that, not each.
 
You are both in top 5pc and are struggling?
I get if one person is.. But 2 people??

5pc is about 80-90k apparently. Surely things can't be difficult with 2 people on that?

Combined. We are in the top 5% of combined household income. I do wish we were both on 90K each.

Of course we could move over the bridge and get a 4 bed house for a little bit more than we paid for our 2 bed house in Bristol but it's bonkers that we should have to move away from our families.

Ah well, enough derailment of the thread. Hopefully with an invasion comes lower house prices.
 
Combined. We are in the top 5% of combined household income. I do wish we were both on 90K each.

Of course we could move over the bridge and get a 4 bed house for a little bit more than we paid for our 2 bed house in Bristol but it's bonkers that we should have to move away from our families.

Ah well, enough derailment of the thread. Hopefully with an invasion comes lower house prices.

No that makes sense. We hit thay mark too combined.
And it's fine for us. But we have no kids and a fairly low mortgage, both WFH (compared to what I gather from the forum).
So I can totally see..
Add kids
Add car lease
Add London prices.

80-90 isn't some luxury.


Its a a shame. I'm not sure why more boomers don't help thiers kids if they can. I don't need/want/expect anything. But I find it a bit weird how my grandparents gave money to our parents. It would be much better to skip a generation. Who needs money in their 70s? My parents certainly don't. It's personal, but it's torn the family apart. I certainly don't envy my parents. So much money but so little joy.

My mum isn't really patriotic. But my step dad is from America. He did me to put a flag pole put up in the garden when I lived there. You can imagine how well raising a flag went down with us! :D (me having to dig a 6 foot with a spade didn't help the cause!)
 
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Do you not feel the flag $shaggers of the world have helped in demonizing patriotism themselves?...... When I think of Patriotism these days, I just picture some bawldy, carling swigging, stone island wearing racist geezer, who partakes in a bit of weekend football thuggery along with his XL bully........ Or maybe I'm just stereotyping :cry:

Sounds like a stereotypical Tee-sider.... oopsie :o :cry:
 
Imagine if this attitude applied to everything in life, just walk away from any problem without owning it and trying to deal with it...... Granted I now spend the majority of my time outside of the UK due to work, but my home and residence is still the UK, even with the state the country is currently in and the totally rudderless and inept government of the past decade or so, I wouldn't just up-sticks and permanently move away from it if I didn't hold a belief that hopefully further down the line things could be somewhat fixed and lessons could be learned..... But heyho, whatever works for you buttercup.

Holy crap this is so perfect, I saw someone quote this post on the next page and thought "that's such a limited mindset, probably a northerner" then clicked to see the post and you're in Teesside.

Dunno what it is with northerners and this "my way of life is the correct way of life" nonsense but I'm really glad it's not proliferated much!
 
Sounds like a stereotypical Tee-sider.... oopsie :o :cry:

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They screwed up the cuts and recruitment so now they expect civilians to fill the gaps. Same as before the previous 2 wars, same mistakes again.

But not this time. They is no way this generation will go to war for the country.

I bet the migrant boats would suddenly stop if they were at risk of having to go and fight though :D
 
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